Tithing…Is it a command? - Page 23

NotforSale · #1 05-10-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bkstokes

After Jesus Christ death, burrial and resurrection -- there is no command to tithe? Can anyone produce one scriptural command to tithe that was given to the NT church?

Can you give me one Scriptural command in the New Testament that says NOT to Tithe?

Crossfire · #2 05-10-2009, 09:39 PM

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In the Christian Church, as those who serve the altar should live by the altar (1 Corinthians 9:13), provision of some kind had necessarily to be made for the sacred ministers. In the beginning this was supplied by the spontaneous offerings of the faithful. In the course of time, however, as the Church expanded and various institutions arose, it became necessary to make laws which would insure the proper and permanent support of the clergy. The payment of tithes was adopted from the Old Law, and early writers speak of it as a divine ordinance and an obligation of conscience. The earliest positive legislation on the subject seems to be contained in the letter of the bishops assembled at Tours in 567 and the canons of the Council of Maçon in 585. In course of time, we find the payment of tithes made obligatory by ecclesiastical enactments in all the countries of christendom. The Church looked on this payment as "of divine law, since tithes were instituted not by man but by the Lord Himself" (C. 14, X de decim. III, 30).

Direct quote from http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14741b.htm.

Your entire argument for the continued frauding of the saints has no scripture, and been exposed as a lie.

The Lemon · #3 05-11-2009, 08:10 AM

I have been reading this post this morning and I just want to say that there is no need for personal attacks on here. Glory Seeker and Not For Sale have a right to express their views without someone railing on them.

I am not in total agreement with all that has been said on this topic, however, I know for sure that Not For Sale is a pastor, a man of God who is doing his best for God - I am sure that Glory Seeker is as well.

I think it is healthy to debate and talk about scripture to seek out truth from the Word of God. It is counter productive to make personal attacks on people that we do not know on a personal level. Also, I would be very careful slamming any man of God who is trying to lead the flock. I realize there are disagreements with those who promote pay the Tithe or go to Hell...but unless I missed something, I have not seen those words promoted by these brethren.

If those of us that do not believe that not paying Tithes will not put us in Hell, then we also can not then say that they are leading the flock to Hell for preaching the Tithe....unless they do some serious perverting and admit to believing that you can buy your way into Heaven.

At any rate, I do not want to see either side of this issue become personal insults that foster no edification at all. We can disagree without running people off. I have said this before....we need to have a balance.

I am not trying to appear hypocritical, just trying to keep this from falling off the cliff.

Truthseeker · #4 05-11-2009, 08:20 AM

No one teaches biblical tithes. It's a watered down twisted version today.

Neck · #5 05-11-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

No one teaches biblical tithes. It's a watered down twisted version today.

I agree with your statement. To gain the reward one must follow the actual practice...

Scott Hutchinson · #6 05-11-2009, 01:07 PM

Compare these scriptures.
http://inyourbible.com/pdf%20docs/Tithing%20Verses.pdf

Crossfire · #7 05-13-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Compare these scriptures.
http://inyourbible.com/pdf%20docs/Tithing%20Verses.pdf

The tithe mentioned and taught by the Law was agricultural. Jesus mentioned this in Matthew 23:23, where He speaks of tithing of mint, anise, and cummin. In Hebrews 7, Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek once, and did so freely, not of command. This was the tithe, the first fruit offering unto the High Priest of God, and was willful. None of the verses rendered called the saints to pay the tithe tax for being a believer.

Good articles for consideration though.

gloryseeker · #8 05-13-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Crossfire

The tithe mentioned and taught by the Law was agricultural. Jesus mentioned this in Matthew 23:23, where He speaks of tithing of mint, anise, and cummin. In Hebrews 7, Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek once, and did so freely, not of command. This was the tithe, the first fruit offering unto the High Priest of God, and was willful. None of the verses rendered called the saints to pay the tithe tax for being a believer.

Good articles for consideration though.

Of course almost everything Jesus talked about was agriculture....take seed plant it in the ground...so we ought to just scrape about 1/2 of the gospels unless you're a farmer.

Digging4Truth · #9 05-13-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gloryseeker

Of course almost everything Jesus talked about was agriculture....take seed plant it in the ground...so we ought to just scrape about 1/2 of the gospels unless you're a farmer.

There is a difference in what Crossfire was saying and Jesus' use of a parable. And you know that... I am sure.

gloryseeker · #10 05-13-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

There is a difference in what Crossfire was saying and Jesus' use of a parable. And you know that... I am sure.

Of course I do....

I only like figs when it is followed with "newton" so bearing fruit has not implication to my life.
Because I have no vineyards being connected doesn't apply to me.
I've never had a wheat crop so the harvest isn't my responsibilities
And because I don't have those spices the tithes is not relevant.

I understand perfectly