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12-18-2008, 06:14 PM
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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?
Is Gluttony a sin??? Yes, because it is something that takes over your time and ability to focus on what is healthy (physically and spiritually). Is being obese a sin? Perhaps. If food it something you are gluttonous about then it is bad. Like you, it kills me that preachers scream about the body being a temple so people don't tattoo and paint it up, but yet they fill it with things that are FAR more unhealthy than tattoos and makeup.
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12-18-2008, 06:20 PM
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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?
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Is Gluttony a sin??? Yes, because it is something that takes over your time and ability to focus on what is healthy (physically and spiritually). Is being obese a sin? Perhaps. If food it something you are gluttonous about then it is bad. Like you, it kills me that preachers scream about the body being a temple so people don't tattoo and paint it up, but yet they fill it with things that are FAR more unhealthy than tattoos and makeup.
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Well, that's not the only reason why we don't wear make-up. But yeah.
Sigh. Another one of those "fat preachers are hypocrites" thread.
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12-19-2008, 09:10 AM
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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?
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Well, that's not the only reason why we don't wear make-up. But yeah.
Sigh. Another one of those "fat preachers are hypocrites" thread.
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To my knowledge that is the only reason that you don't wear makeup...I think it is crock honestly. If one has the conviction against it that is fine, but it should not be a corporate thing, IMO.
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12-19-2008, 11:03 AM
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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?
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To my knowledge that is the only reason that you don't wear makeup...I think it is crock honestly. If one has the conviction against it that is fine, but it should not be a corporate thing, IMO.
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Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. Since it's to your knowledge, you certainly have not sat down with the topic before. But I'll let you leave it as a "crock". Have fun with your pancake batter.
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01-19-2009, 02:03 PM
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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?
Overeating is not healthy. But a sin? I think it depends.
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12-18-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?
Just a side note: Don't assume that everyone who is obese is that way because they overeat or don't exercise. There are some serious health issues that cause people to be overweight as well, no matter how little they eat or how much they exercise. (Cushings disease, Adrenal insufficiency, etc)
If this turns into another bash the overweight minister thread, I will petition the rest of admin team to allow me to close it. Once this week was enough....... for those who ended up getting the other thread locked -please don't ruin another thread that started out in the right way.
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12-18-2008, 07:15 PM
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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?
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Originally Posted by Tina
Just a side note: Don't assume that everyone who is obese is that way because they overeat or don't exercise. There are some serious health issues that cause people to be overweight as well, no matter how little they eat or how much they exercise. (Cushings disease, Adrenal insufficiency, etc)
If this turns into another bash the overweight minister thread, I will petition the rest of admin team to allow me to close it. Once this week was enough....... for those who ended up getting the other thread locked -please don't ruin another thread that started out in the right way.
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Hi Tina,
I realize there are many who have an illness or a disability that keeps them from balance in this area. This post, by no means, is intended to hurt them or make them feel inferior.
Keep in mind though, we can easily see how America has fallen in this area. In the Asian community, until recently, they were the healthiest people on earth. Good diet, staying active, and keeping thier weight down was the reason. Rice and fish were mainstays. These foods have been proven to be excellent for the body.
Now that western culture has entered thier countries, they have seen a staggering increase in the diseases related to American living. Cancer and heart disease were virtually unheard of in some countries, until we came in with our fast food craze and eat anything mentallity.
There is a religious organization in America that is considered the healthiest than any other; The Seventh Day Adventist. This is because they adhere to strict diet conviction. Thier stats prove a tremendous payoff for eating right and exercising, while giving us good example to follow.
I hope we can learn the blessing of this. God Bless you.
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12-18-2008, 07:18 PM
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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?
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Originally Posted by NotforSale
Hi Tina,
I realize there are many who have an illness or a disability that keeps them from balance in this area. This post, by no means, is intended to hurt them or make them feel inferior.
Keep in mind though, we can easily see how America has fallen in this area. In the Asian community, until recently, they were the healthiest people on earth. Good diet, staying active, and keeping thier weight down was the reason. Rice and fish were mainstays. These foods have been proven to be excellent for the body.
Now that western culture has entered thier countries, they have seen a staggering increase in the diseases related to American living. Cancer and heart disease were virtually unheard of in some countries, until we came in with our fast food craze and eat anything mentallity.
There is a religious organization in America that is considered the healthiest than any other; The Seventh Day Adventist. This is because they adhere to strict diet conviction. Thier stats prove a tremendous payoff for eating right and exercising, while giving us good example to follow.
I hope we can learn the blessing of this. God Bless you.
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I don't disagree with what you're saying here. But I believe that the increase in illnesses in developing countries has been traced more to environmental degradation than diet.
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12-18-2008, 07:20 PM
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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?
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I don't disagree with what you're saying here. But I believe that the increase in illnesses in developing countries has been traced more to environmental degradation than diet.
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I agree somewhat, with lack of clean water being one of them.
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12-18-2008, 07:32 PM
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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?
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I don't disagree with what you're saying here. But I believe that the increase in illnesses in developing countries has been traced more to environmental degradation than diet.
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True. The eviroment has changed drastically and things like Chernobyl proved what can happen by man's inventions going sour.
It has been proven though, when the diet of these countries changed, so did thier health.
Garbage in, garbage out. It wouldn't surprise me if our food itself has things in it that we know nothing about. This also the result of enviromental change.
Obesity though, is the result of too much of one thing and not enough of the other; this is a fact. And this imbalance has led to soring medical costs and a pharmacutical industry that's rubbing thier hands together with glee.
The real sad thing is that we lose and we suffer for this, unless we stand up and do something about it.
Thanks, NFS
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