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05-18-2011, 09:34 PM
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Re: David Bernard - Is this statement biblical or
Thank God for peace...God's peace...When Jesus Christ came into my life HIS peace and holiness came...Both come from HIM.
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05-18-2011, 10:55 PM
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Re: David Bernard - Is this statement biblical or
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David K. Bernard "We must not seek peace at the expense of holiness, valuing harmonious relationships more than standing for truth and obeying God’s will."
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He is obviously referring to standards of dress. But when he made the clause at the end saying, "valuing harmonious relationships more than standing for truth and obeying God’s will" he was indicating that that principle is what he uses and applies to the standards issue. I agree with the clause he mentioned. I disagree that the standards he espouses are an issue to be concerned with as per that clause, though. But the basis of his view is the clause, and the clause is right on the button.
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05-19-2011, 01:58 PM
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Re: David Bernard - Is this statement biblical or
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He is obviously referring to standards of dress. But when he made the clause at the end saying, "valuing harmonious relationships more than standing for truth and obeying God’s will" he was indicating that that principle is what he uses and applies to the standards issue. I agree with the clause he mentioned. I disagree that the standards he espouses are an issue to be concerned with as per that clause, though. But the basis of his view is the clause, and the clause is right on the button.
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05-19-2011, 11:21 AM
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Re: David Bernard - Is this statement biblical or
well we can be different and still be friends...
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05-19-2011, 12:39 PM
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Re: David Bernard - Is this statement biblical or
Well, it is Twitter after all. You can only say so much with a tweet.
Perhaps that's why some people shouldn't tweet...
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05-19-2011, 01:07 PM
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Re: David Bernard - Is this statement biblical or
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Well, it is Twitter after all. You can only say so much with a tweet.
Perhaps that's why some people shouldn't tweet...
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Definitely. Some topics are not appropriate for Twitter, especially ones that are inflammatory and require some context.
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05-19-2011, 01:26 PM
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Re: David Bernard - Is this statement biblical or
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I think you've never been on this side of the fence.  |
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Definitely. Some topics are not appropriate for Twitter, especially ones that are inflammatory and require some context.
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Don't matter which "side of the fence" I'm on, I'm just not that easily "inflamed"
Like anything else, a person is going to read into something based on their current attitude, frame of mind, personal opinion, or past experience. Rarely does one use objectivity.
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05-19-2011, 02:44 PM
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Re: David Bernard - Is this statement biblical or
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Don't matter which "side of the fence" I'm on, I'm just not that easily "inflamed"
Like anything else, a person is going to read into something based on their current attitude, frame of mind, personal opinion, or past experience. Rarely does one use objectivity.
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I am not inflamed. And while I agree with you that a person may read into statements based on their experience, I still felt the statement was not necessary, or required more explanantion given the climate in the UPC. I am sorry if you don't understand my point.
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05-19-2011, 03:46 PM
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Re: David Bernard - Is this statement biblical or
The other thing that bothers me is, people who no longer believe "The Standards" or no longer believe down to the very last letter the UPC standards or someone else's rigid standards are said to no longer believe in Holiness.
That is two fold. It, on the one hand slams that individual as a loose immoral person when they may not be and on the other makes outward codes of how to look "Holiness" and ignores outward behavior and attitudes as well as the inward change of heart
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-20-2011, 02:43 PM
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Re: David Bernard - Is this statement biblical or
Moderate, biblical , I don't care what you call them.
The point was, according to the labels usually given on this forum, they could be said to be shifting to moderate.
I see you been a member a while, not paying attention ?
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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