Signs of the End Time??

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher

I didn't get my info from Hal Lindsey, Grant Jeffery, OR John Hagee. I took it straight from the US Government web site. The website you reference chose to recommend sources that prove their point.

I guess it boils down to this: we'll all believe what we want to believe. I choose to believe in the imminent return of Jesus Christ.

But.... the evidence matters not then... it's simply what we choose??? (BTW I am not sure the imminency of his return is the question.)

I think the paper is very thorough. Here is an excerpt:



THE GEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE:
ARE EARTHQUAKES INCREASING?
If the popular notion of many prophecy teachers (Lindsey, Missler, Van Impe, Church, Jeffrey, Stearman, Hagee, Lalonde, etc.) is correct, two assertions about twentieth-century earthquakes must be true:

(1) a noteworthy deficiency of big earthquakes existed in the first half of the century,and
(2) an obvious increase in the frequency of big earthquakes occurred since 1950.
These two assertions must be made by prophecy teachers so as to support a notion of the unique "earthquake sign" occurring in the 1990s. Both assertions, we maintain, are false. Using the best earthquake catalog data and statements of seismologists, we have concluded exactly the opposite:

(1) a noteworthy excess of big earthquakes existed in the first half of the century, and
(2) an obvious decrease in the frequency of big earthquakes occurred since 1950.

[rrford]

"Even so, come Lord Jesus."

"When the Spirit AND THE BRIDE says "Come."

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Signs of the End Times??

Do you believe we are living in the very last days?

Are there signs, unique to our current age, that show the fat lady is about to sing?

Please share a few examples of what you believe are signs of the "End Time".

I find it interesting to note that each of the recorded instances where our Lord's response to the apostles' inquiry concerning what we are to look for which would be indicative of His return in bodily form to the earth at the end of the present age, that the word SIGN is used in the singular sense, and NOT in the plural (that is to say, ONE event, or happening, as opposed to "many") - see Matthew 24:3, Mark 13:3, & Luke 21:7.

I also find it worthy of note that the first words of our Lord's response to this SINGULAR "sign," contained the admonition/warning to exercise extreme caution that NO man deceive you concerning this matter. IMO I believe that the words comprising our Lord's initial response are meant to imply/infer that "widespread spiritual deception" would be the FOREMOST "sign" of the nearness of His coming again to the earth. Surely there can be NO disputing the fact that we are witnesses to the actual fulfillment of this prophetic utterance in the days in which we presently live. The abundance of "false prophets," constantly spewing out their erroneous, misleading teachings, are found in every nation today! For this "singular" reason I am convinced that we are living in the closing moments of the "last days."

This important factor is also why I believe a study of the remaining portion of our Lord's reponse to the inquiry of His chosen apostles regarding this matter, is not only relevant, but extremely crucial. I believe this most sincerely because not only is this the ONLY doctrinal teaching within the entire worldwide Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal movement in which a variety of error is to be found (and perhaps the only one that we hold in common with the worldwide Trinitarian "professing" Christian community), but our lack of a clearly defined, unified agreement concerning those events which are to precede the soon-coming appearance of our Lord and the subsequent bodily resurrection of the righteous dead, has heretofore severely hindered the OAP movement from its ability to recognize the critically important message it should be striving to deliver to the lost among us!

That message is simply that for these past 2,000 years since the ascension of our Lord to His throne in the heavens, He has been busy with the task of building an "ark" of safety (His church) as a haven for all His chosen people. Just as it was in the days of Noah, when that moment arrives that God arises and shuts the doors to His "ark," NO man will be able to enter after this event takes place. Surely that future moment will be the fulfillment of our Lord's prophecy, which warned that "the night cometh when NO man can work" (see John 9:4).

The great "falling away" foretold by apostle Paul in II Thessalonians 2:3, represents this same event. As far back as the days of Job we are able to read of this forthcoming event - "He taketh away the heart of the chief of the people of the earth, and causeth them to wander in a wilderness where there is no way. They grope in the darkness without light, and he maketh them to stagger like a drunken man" (Job 12:24-25). The word "darkness, or "night," is used throughout the Bible to indicate an absence of knowledge concerning things spiritual. This is also why we find it written in I Thessalonians 5:2 and II Peter 3:10 that "the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the NIGHT." I ask, does a thief come only under the cover of darkness? This phrase used by both Paul and Peter is one which is also used by Amos whenever he wrote of the day of our Lord's return (see Amos 5:18-20).

Jesus foretold of the arrival of a future moment when ALL those who do NOT possess an understanding of the TRUTH, would experience the REMOVAL from their minds, whatever degree of such understanding which they might "seem to have" (see Matthew 13:12; 25:29, Mark 4:25, Luke 8:18 & 19:26). Our Lord's prophecy regarding this event was clarified by Paul when he penned - "...for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believea lie:..." (II Thessalonians 2:11).

A careful examination of the manner in which the "righteousness" of God is applied throughout the Bible, and one finds that just as He rendered a judgment of "gross spiritual blindness" upon the Israelites who rejected Him, He MUST also impose this SAME penalty upon every Gentile who rejects Him as well. We find this prophecy mentioned in Lamentations chapter 1.

There exists so much more I could write about these things, and hope to do so in the days ahead. I urge all who occasion to read what I have written to prayerfully consider their scriptural merits.

May the love of God and the peace of the Holy Ghost ever abide with His chosen people!

Bro Don

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

The reason I wished to get some discussion going on this is that I am not convinced we are living at the very end of time.

The "signs" that are often touted ring true at first but upon closer review it appears they are not much different than they have been for hundreds or thousands of years prior....

Are there more earthquakes today than say... in the 1900's?

Is homosexuality much more prevalent today than in old Rome?

Are wars more commonplace now than in times when tens of millions died in inquisitions?

I pretty much agree with you. As a hugonaut if the king of France and the catholic church was wearing out the saints around 1550 or so.

homosexuality has risen and fallen a half dozen times since christ walked the earth.

men (including turtullian) have claimed to be Jesus since shortly after he assended to heaven.

End times? who knows.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Signs of the End Times??

Do you believe we are living in the very last days?

Are there signs, unique to our current age, that show the fat lady is about to sing?

Please share a few examples of what you believe are signs of the "End Time".

I am 43 so I am half way home. No matter what verse we are passing through in Daniel or Revelations.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

I am 43 so I am half way home. No matter what verse we are passing through in Daniel or Revelations.

This is my view as well... Like smoke from a chimney, a vapor... life is here and gone.

The sixth seal has been brought down on me - evidenced by my balding head!

Life is short.