Docetism - Page 3

Steve Epley · #1 09-08-2011, 11:50 AM

On FCF where we met that was Jim Yohe's forum he being a licensed UPC preacher we had a wide latitude of discussion. PCI thinking verses New Birth, Standards, Endtime, and we discussed Teke and his bizarre teaching. All of us were fervent and many discussions were heated. But their was an underlying respect for our Apostolic heritages though diverse. Then came NFCF, the Island and now AFF the tone changed and instead of respect for our heritage came contempt by those who were frequent posters. Even those of the Liberal end like CC1 and Pianoman(both whom I consider friends) seldom posted for a season. Thus the norm was the outlandish everything from pro-homo-atheist-muslims- and the majority posting despising everything Pentecostal or Apostolic. I quit because my name was being used as encouragement to have others post who were more mainstream Apostolic so I stopped. I do not intend to post here on a regular basis however I did feel the need to answer this spurious charge. Thanks for your indulgence.

RandyWayne · #2 09-08-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

As a habit I do not post here at time I do lurk however I was alerted of the discussion concerning me so I came on to respond.
1. I have no idea what this guy is talking about?
2. I have NEVER taught the divine flesh doctrine I believe it is heresy.
3. The Bible NOT I teaches Mary concieved of the Holy Ghost so whatever the male normally produces for conception to occur was provided by the Spirit says Matthew & Luke. She concieved as any normal woman concieves without the aid of a human. Thus as she was the mother and God was the Father of the child.
4. Jesus was 100% man and 100% God that is the doctrine of the incanrnation.
On a side note most of you folks don't attend Apostolic churches and despise Apostolic doctrine so why not change your name?
Some are friends from the FCF days your demise from those days are sad. On that forum I was clearly and unshamed Apostolic and remain so today.
Just wanted to clear this matter up.

That is exactly how I understand it. We're actually in agreement! Devine Flesh actually teaches that Jesus had NO DNA from His mother, that Mary was a mere artificial womb for Him.

Praxeas · #3 09-08-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

That is exactly how I understand it. We're actually in agreement! Devine Flesh actually teaches that Jesus had NO DNA from His mother, that Mary was a mere artificial womb for Him.

which contradicts scruipture. Jesus is a direct decendent of David

Praxeas · #4 09-08-2011, 04:14 PM

God made Eve from Adam without a sperm cell...was she any less human?

houston · #5 09-08-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

whatever the male normally produces for conception to occur was provided by the Spirit

So you do believe that there was a divine sperm cell. Thanks for replying.

Steve Epley · #6 09-08-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by houston

So you do believe that there was a divine sperm cell. Thanks for replying.

If you are saying the sperm came from the Divine then yes but if you are saying the sperm cell itself was divine I say NO! God created the whatever that joined with Mary it was human made by the Divine. The same Divine that created Adam(who wasn't divine in human nature)created the whatever was was placed in Mary's womb. Jesus was the BEGOTTEN Son of God that means God begat Him. This is NOT divine flesh teaching but just the opposite. Mary was indeed His Mother.

TJJJ · #7 09-09-2011, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by houston

His body was real, but his flesh was divine. Steve Epley and his friends believe that there was a divine sperm cell involved in the process. Then they contradict themselves when they refute docetism.

Epley has more wrong teaching than this......