You should learn how to speak your mind and quit beating around the bush all the time!
It doesn't happen very often, but sometimes someone puts a wolverene under my saddle and this is one of those times...
How many people do you think this kind of attitude has chased away from the church?
I would venture a guess...quite a few.
This is why so many preachers don't have to preach standards anymore, there are enough people in the congregation with the power of a condemning look to maintain compliance for them.
"there is therefore now no condemnation to those who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit."
You know, I've heard conviction preached about in relation to someone doing something that was preached against, especially standards, yet the word 'conviction' isn't even in the Bible. Where does that teaching come from?
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
You know, I've heard conviction preached about in relation to someone doing something that was preached against, especially standards, yet the word 'conviction' isn't even in the Bible. Where does that teaching come from?
Joh 8:9 And hearing, and being convicted by conscience, they went out one by one, beginning at the oldest, until the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
If you ask me, this is the most disgusting attitude, concept, and perspective in the entire religious culture of the apostolic church!
Who on earth do you think you are by trying to dress up the grace and mercy of God with the black robes of judgement?
Well, I guess we can just throw scripture out the window..."there is therefore now no condemnation to those who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit."
The last time I checked, God did not use the judgement and condemnation of man to influence or even force people into subjection, I would even go so far as to say it is religious oppression and legalism at its worst and it makes me sick!
Carp,
Is this post a work of the Spirit?
Does it offer its own, alternately-sourced, form of condemnation?
Isn't is possible that along the continum of possible condemning actions, a person who condemns another for judging what they do with their own hair AND another who a makes determination that a nebulous "religious oppression and legalism" is at work, can both be found as having there purpose in bringing condemnation.
IMO, both involve the judgements (subscribing motive) of men against the actions of men.
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Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath [James 1:19]
Carp,
Is this post a work of the Spirit?
Does it offer its own, alternately-sourced, form of condemnation?
Isn't is possible that along the continum of possible condemning actions, a person who condemns another for judging what they do with their own hair AND another who a makes determination that a nebulous "religious oppression and legalism" is at work, can both be found as having there purpose in bringing condemnation.
IMO, both involve the judgements (subscribing motive) of men against the actions of men.
Descernment and differentiating between what is evil and what is holy is indeed a work of the spirit
My comments were pointed more directly toward the attitudes of the Apostolic culture. The individual who wrote those comments above was only a representative of that culture. This attitude is pervasive throughout the Apostolic movement in my experience.
It is this exact perspective that gives empowerment license to people to think they are God's representatives to exact conviction...when it really is nothing more than oppression and condemnation. Further, I believe that Pastor's encourage this attitude because it keeps them from having to preach standards all the time.
Maybe that was the convicting power of the HOLY GHOST making you feel that way.
If I had a nickel for every time I heard someone say that to me.......LOL!
Why is this a typical response when someone is concerned about what other people think? I would think if it was the Holy Ghost convicting her, she'd have felt a loss or something like a guilty conscience when she had it cut, yet she denies this in her post.
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
Maybe that was the convicting power of the HOLY GHOST making you feel that way.
Maybe it's her conscience weakened by wrong teaching that's making her feel that way.
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James 2
12 So whenever you speak, or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law of love, the law that set you free. 13 For there will be no mercy for you if you have not been merciful to others. But if you have been merciful, then God's mercy toward you will win out over his judgment against you.
If Admin feels the need to move this elsewhere, then so be it...
I have heard all of my life, that when a lady backslides and cuts her hair, then she is 'acting out in rebellion'. Has anyone else ever heard this stated?
Where does this line of thinking come from, and is there BIBLE scripture for it?
I believe the uncut hair doctrine, and have never cut my hair...however, I have good friends that are BUSY in the Kingdom (in Apostolic UPCI churches) that keep their hair trimmed. I cannot say that they are going to Hell for it- but, it's a risk that I am not willing to take...
I have mixed feelings about the hair...there is a certain fear in my heart, when I am tempted to trim some off, in an effort to make it look healthier. Does this fear stem from my HG, or from outer influences? When my daughter cut hers- I felt SOOOOOO sad inside, like a part of me died. I'm serious!!! Why is THAT???? I still feel sad when I see it.
I know I am not alone in my feelings. To those of you that TRIM your hair- did you feel a sense of loss the first time, and then it got easier each time you trimmed it? Or does it bother you each trim???
I don't want this to become a debate- I would like some serious, honest discussion about this subject...
In my opinion, men cannot relate to this particular question that I ask- they have never fought this battle...
Any input??????
In our church we were never taught that we couldn't trim our hair. It was not a subject that was preached on ever, really. We were taght in Bible studies that a woman should have long hair. People had differeing opinions on the subject of trimming. I always did trim my hair. We have many black women in our church (one being my DIL) who perm, trim and put alot of prducts in their haier to keep it managable.
I have a friend who listened to some tapes by a well known preacher who preached on women's standards. She decided when listening to these tapes that she would no longer trim her hair. After she made that decision she started to feel a feeling of bondage. It got worse and she studied scripture and then she decided to trim her hair again. She said the bondage was removed immediately. She felt God was telling her that this teaching was one of bondage and biblically incorrect.
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James 2
12 So whenever you speak, or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law of love, the law that set you free. 13 For there will be no mercy for you if you have not been merciful to others. But if you have been merciful, then God's mercy toward you will win out over his judgment against you.
In our church we were never taught that we couldn't trim our hair. It was not a subject that was preached on ever, really. We were taght in Bible studies that a woman should have long hair. People had differeing opinions on the subject of trimming. I always did trim my hair. We have many black women in our church (one being my DIL) who perm, trim and put alot of prducts in their haier to keep it managable.
I have a friend who listened to some tapes by a well known preacher who preached on women's standards. She decided when listening to these tapes that she would no longer trim her hair. After she made that decision she started to feel a feeling of bondage. It got worse and she studied scripture and then she decided to trim her hair again. She said the bondage was removed immediately. She felt God was telling her that this teaching was one of bondage and biblically incorrect.
It's ALL good!!!
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