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Old 03-24-2009, 09:08 PM
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I'm not an Obama fan by about ten million miles, but I get tired of the "IMPEACH" battle cry. I got sick of it with Pres. Bush, and I don't like it with this one. (Or that one, as McCain called him )

Just let the process work. If Obama does a bad enough job, he won't get voted back in. If enough people like what he's doing, he will. And I'll be bummed.

Right now, I'm just stunned at how completely nuts the entire government has gone. It feels like we have a group of kindergartners up there running the place.

I truly had hoped that he would do a decent job, even though I don't agree with much of anything he stands for. So far my hopes haven't been realized.
The government's always a little crazy when a new administration is getting established.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:15 PM
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900 million dollars for the Hamas. Goodness. Wonder where that money comes from?

$ 1 TRillion dollar defict for the next 4 years
In 2006 the Treasury Department reported that the Bush Administration was running over 3 trillion dollars in deficit "a year"
"The Bush administration is running a federal budget deficit at an unsustainable, system-dooming pace of about $3.5 trillion a year, econometrician John Williams, who publishes the website Shadow Government Statistics, told WND.

Williams' argument is fully validated in the Financial Report of the United States, a little-known report Congress has mandated that the Treasury Department publishes each year, reporting the federal budget on a GAAP accounting basis, not on a cash accrual basis.

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"Even worse," Williams continued, "the U.S. Government's negative net worth widened to $49.4 trillion in 2005. For the first time, total government liabilities have topped $50 trillion, and the number is continuing to grow. The United States is bankrupt, whether the Bush administration wants to admit it or not."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=53366



Can you show your source for the 900 million given to Hamas? I'd like to know more about it.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:18 PM
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Obama is a socialist and has no business trying to run a democratic republic as a matter of fact the man has no clue what it means to be a democratic republic . Grant it , the GOP failed to practice true conservativism which should always practice fiscal responsibility , strong defense , personal responsibility , right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness , secure borders and including GOD in everything we do .

The Constitution is enemy #1 of Obama and in order for him to work his liberal statist agenda he must go against everything it stands for

It is a shameful time in our nation to have such a Marxist as our President and impeachment and expulsion of him and his kind would be a blessing to our nation .
Both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party have embraced socialist principles. To vote for either makes one a socialist. The only true free market party is the Libertarian Party.
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Mike you didn't answer the question. Woukd you like a few of them moving next door to you?
Mike wouldn't have to face the prospects of any of them moving next door to him if they weren't transported over here and illegally detained.
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Mike wouldn't have to face the prospects of any of them moving next door to him if they weren't transported over here and illegally detained.
This is war, or did you forget. If we do bring any of them over here let's put them in your's and Mike's neighborhood, you both defend them so well.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:34 PM
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This is war, or did you forget. If we do bring any of them over here let's put them in your's and Mike's neighborhood, you both defend them so well.
List to me and listen closely.....

If an individual is indeed proven guilty of a terrorist act or of being a military enemy I support their detainment. However...if they haven't been proven guilty of anything through due process it is an affront to the very liberties our founders believed in, God given human rights, and all that is holy to detain them. It's an issue of liberty and human rights. Maybe we should detain you illegally and see if you think differently six years from now. You either love liberty for all men...or you're a tyrant. Take your pick.

Were you in the military? I was.
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Thank you Ferd, well said.

When it comes to Bush...I think we should prosecute him for war crimes. Launching a war of choice based on trumped up charges wherein 80,000 people die should be seriously investigated. If found that the evidence was trumped up or partially fabricated...he should face execution.
Hmmmm...maybe he should.....along with ALL the democrats and republicans that voted to go along, looking at the very same evidence..........and throw Bill and Hill in that group as well.........


At least Bush stuck to his principals up until he decided to bail out the Money Changers.....

President Obama is about to take us all to places we don't really want to go and goodbye Constitution.......
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List to me and listen closely.....

If an individual is indeed proven guilty of a terrorist act or of being a military enemy I support their detainment. However...if they haven't been proven guilty of anything through due process it is an affront to the very liberties our founders believed in, God given human rights, and all that is holy to detain them. It's an issue of liberty and human rights. Maybe we should detain you illegally and see if you think differently six years from now. You either love liberty for all men...or you're a tyrant. Take your pick.

Were you in the military? I was.
I know some men I am glad are not at liberty. And I am not a tyrant.
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List to me and listen closely.....

If an individual is indeed proven guilty of a terrorist act or of being a military enemy I support their detainment. However...if they haven't been proven guilty of anything through due process it is an affront to the very liberties our founders believed in, God given human rights, and all that is holy to detain them. It's an issue of liberty and human rights. Maybe we should detain you illegally and see if you think differently six years from now. You either love liberty for all men...or you're a tyrant. Take your pick.

Were you in the military? I was.
Exactly.

Some of you guys like Soun and RevDw, believe that it's our right to imprison people without any chance of ever giving them a trial. I find that in opposition to everything this country has fought and stood for. You certainly don't stand on any legal or ethical high ground.

Why in the world are we afraid to bring them to trial and either prove their guilt or turn them loose? I'm not advocating turning them lose, I'm advocating bringing them to justice.

God spare us the day, where the USA stands for imprisoning people without any intent of ever giving them a fair trial and then the proper consequences either way.

It's this type of NeoCon Republican bull that got the Republican party thrashed in November.
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Mike you didn't answer the question. Woukd you like a few of them moving next door to you?
First of all the question is asinine because these people aren't American citizens. I won't have to worry about them coming to Fort Smith, Arkansas or your hometown or anywhere else in this country.

Theoretically speaking, if a person is accused of a crime, I believe in giving them the lawful presumption of innocence, and if they are found innocent, then they should be allowed to return to society and live wherever they want to live.

If the Gitmo detainees are convicted, then they should either be incarcerated or executed depending on the severity of the individual crime.

You seem to be lumping them all into the guilty category and I'm not sure why since we haven't afforded them a fair trial 6 years later.
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