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Re: Christian Life Center Stockton Question
I am hoping this thread will get back to the premise! I don't want it to get derailed into a discussion of animosity between UPC and exUPC churches. I don't mind discussing that but it needs to be on another thread. Hoping before this one veers completely off course I can get some posts to the questions at hand in my first two original posts starting the thread.
Thanks!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-27-2014, 11:00 PM
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Re: Christian Life Center Stockton Question
Okay, sounds good. I hope I covered the Lifesong part but Im not sure about the specifics with CLC anymore.
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07-28-2014, 06:28 AM
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Re: Christian Life Center Stockton Question
Holiness has always been under attack, but as of late, there is an increased aggression by apostate Christians who have walked away from truth. These false teachers are willingly ignorant, choosing to deceive others in an effort to draw people away from God unto themselves. However, for every group of apostates, God has His own who love truth. It is for this reason that we are offering these teachings on holiness.
The above is the description of CLC's Holiness Series DVD set in their store.
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07-28-2014, 06:58 AM
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Re: Christian Life Center Stockton Question
CC1 - New Life in Tampa (Technically Seffner) runs over 1500 on Sunday morning.
Incredible Pastor, people and growth, there.
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07-28-2014, 10:28 AM
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Re: Christian Life Center Stockton Question
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CC1 - New Life in Tampa (Technically Seffner) runs over 1500 on Sunday morning.
Incredible Pastor, people and growth, there.
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Interesting. Who is the pastor?
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-28-2014, 05:02 PM
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Re: Christian Life Center Stockton Question
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Interesting. Who is the pastor?
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Daniel Davy
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07-28-2014, 05:05 PM
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Re: Christian Life Center Stockton Question
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Daniel Davy
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Sounds like a Pirate! Argh!!!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-28-2014, 10:34 PM
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Re: Christian Life Center Stockton Question
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Sounds like a Pirate! Argh!!!
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Avast there matey, I am daniel davie!!!
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07-28-2014, 11:31 AM
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Re: Christian Life Center Stockton Question
FPC in Durham runs upward of 1000
FPC in North Little Rock runs around 2000
Neither are UPCi but Durham used to be.
North Little Rock is the largest Apostolic Church that I know of in the US.
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07-28-2014, 11:35 AM
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Re: Christian Life Center Stockton Question
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FPC in Durham runs upward of 1000
FPC in North Little Rock runs around 2000
Neither are UPCi but Durham used to be.
North Little Rock is the largest Apostolic Church that I know of in the US.
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I did not know a bout Durham. I know about NLR. I have driven by that beautiful building many times while on I40 but have never had an opportunity to be in service.
It is hard to find pics of NLR because I think they think a camera will capture your soul *but the sound company that installed their audio equipment when they built it had some pics on their site. Very beautiful traditional church. Great for the deep South and attracting conventional church goers.
* I am just kidding but they don't believe in using the internet so there is no church website with pics or for sure no video!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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