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Old 07-07-2007, 12:11 AM
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Define "Uncommon Seed/Gift".
And, well, maybe help us 'simple ones' out with a good scriptural background for this?
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:21 AM
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And, well, maybe help us 'simple ones' out with a good scriptural background for this?
SCRIPTURE!

Awww come on, SISTER Murphy, what's SCRIPTURE got to do with it.

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Old 07-07-2007, 10:00 AM
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The uncommon seed is obviously television advertisement.....I can't believe no one has made that deduction yet...
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:09 AM
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Uncommon Seed Uncommon Harvest CD

When an uncommon seed comes into contact with God's miracle-working soil an explosion of miraculous provision occurs!

Our Price: $10.00

This is what he came up with after his "Revelation of Seed Time and Harvest" quit bringing in the big bucks...........
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:16 AM
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And, well, maybe help us 'simple ones' out with a good scriptural background for this?
Have to agree with you on that one!

No wonder so many are involved in lotteries. lol!
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Old 07-07-2007, 11:41 AM
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I'm beginning to think some of the posters have been to the Dan Rather School of Sound Bites. The prosperity doctrine I and many others adhere to does not in anyway represent the misrepresentation characterized in this thread.

There are more scriptures which talk about finances than talk about health. Care to discuss the substances?

It is breathtaking something like man-made standards, which have NO scriptures to support is accepted much easier than scriptures dealing with finanncial success. I would rather deal with scriptural evidence than ancedotal evidence. There is more scripture supporting a prosperity doctrine than supporting a subjective dress code.

Prosperity comes from following established principles. The Bible has principles how to accumulate wealth. John said he wished the saints would prosper and be in good health, as they prospered and maintained a healthy spiritual life. Jesus promised blessings beyond imagination when he said give and it shall be given back to you to the point it would be running over.

God used the prophet to tell God's people to "test" God and see if God would pour out blessings they couldn't contain.

Proverbs is full of principles and when applied will lead to a prosperous life.



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How about I sow a bag of Clothes into the ministry.

Why will only money bring me back a financial harvest.

Oh, I forgot the clothes will benefit the less fortunate.

The money will buy a new a new car....

I am sick of hearing about money.

With all the messages being preached on sowing.

I am waiting for a saint to grab the video of a sermon.

Then sue the minister for malpractice.
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Old 07-07-2007, 11:53 AM
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I'm beginning to think some of the posters have been to the Dan Rather School of Sound Bites. The prosperity doctrine I and many others adhere to does not in anyway represent the misrepresentation characterized in this thread.

There are more scriptures which talk about finances than talk about health. Care to discuss the substances?

It is breathtaking something like man-made standards, which have NO scriptures to support is accepted much easier than scriptures dealing with finanncial success. I would rather deal with scriptural evidence than ancedotal evidence. There is more scripture supporting a prosperity doctrine than supporting a subjective dress code.

Prosperity comes from following established principles. The Bible has principles how to accumulate wealth. John said he wished the saints would prosper and be in good health, as they prospered and maintained a healthy spiritual life. Jesus promised blessings beyond imagination when he said give and it shall be given back to you to the point it would be running over.

God used the prophet to tell God's people to "test" God and see if God would pour out blessings they couldn't contain.

Proverbs is full of principles and when applied will lead to a prosperous life.
I don't believe that anyone was saying they don't believe in prosperity. The point really is that sometimes God takes you through a time of suffering to build character in you.

What we are instructed, as way of example, in Philippians 4:12-13:

12 - "I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.

13 - "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."

We are not always going to be prosperous, but we can always be faithful.

The prosperity doctrine leads people to believe that they will never suffer and I think that is the conflict in the teaching, IMO. It reminds me of the Lottery.
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:12 PM
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I don't see questionable cause here ... I see a safe assumption/ inference.... the phraseology is not original to MB ... nor.... correct me if I'm wrong... is it biblical terminology. Prax ... we infer everyday.
I thought it was supposed to be a prophecy...why does the phraseology hae to be original to MB? Does every word that comes forth in a prophecy have to be in the bible somewhere? What about preaching? If someone says one word, one little word, that is not found in your King James Version, does that mean it came from the devil?

Be careful now, because the word bible is not in the bible.
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Be careful now, because the word bible is not in the bible.
Yes it is! It's on the cover!!
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:41 PM
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Yes it is! It's on the cover!!
lol, oh yeah. I forgot Paul put that there
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