Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Churchlady

You are very wrong in your description of the first board member. None of these grown children of the lifelong missionaries is on the board if TPC. Further, your description of the second board member is in extremely poor taste. And your description of the third is partially true; however, he is not related to the family you suggest he is. How do you people that openly post lies or assumptions on this open forum sleep at night? You should all be ashamed of yourselves. These are hurting people you are further inflicting injury upon. This has nothing to do with you! The only thing anyone outside of this situation should be doing is keeping their mouth shut except to utter a prayer for the Black family and the members of TPC.

We here on the AFF have no way of knowing if what ANYONE is saying is true, much less yourself. Have you been on Facebook finding things out about this situation? I suspect so. What is the difference between reading something on Facebook as opposed to a post here?

As far as your highlighted words above, the people of the congregation of TB have been deeply hurt and shocked. They have a right to know what is happening to the church, their money, and their former pastor.

Obviously your saying that everyone needs to keep their mouth shut is coming from someone who has something you want to hide, and you don't want people talking, because you're afraid the truth may come out. ?? Is this so?

It seems every time I hear someone say this, just keep your mouth shut, and don't ask any questions is a blaring advertisement that indeed... there is something that is trying to be kept quiet and hidden, and the truth is being buried under a conglomeration of lies.

Most people who have posted on here have agreed that TB deserves forgiveness, and a place at the mercy seat, as do we all. However, his position begs answers, and there are repercussions to sins such as the ones he is accused of commiting.

If you are so familiar with the board, perhaps you need to remind them that the 800 or so souls in that congregation have been deeply hurt, and it would do a world of good to come clean, and bring some answers before the people, as CC1 has already posted above.

[Churchlady]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

We here on the AFF have no way of knowing if what ANYONE is saying is true, much less yourself. Have you been on Facebook finding things out about this situation? I suspect so. What is the difference between reading something on Facebook as opposed to a post here?

As far as your highlighted words above, the people of the congregation of TB have been deeply hurt and shocked. They have a right to know what is happening to the church, their money, and their former pastor.

Obviously your saying that everyone needs to keep their mouth shut is coming from someone who has something you want to hide, and you don't want people talking, because you're afraid the truth may come out. ?? Is this so?

It seems every time I hear someone say this, just keep your mouth shut, and don't ask any questions is a blaring advertisement that indeed... there is something that is trying to be kept quiet and hidden, and the truth is being buried under a conglomeration of lies.

Most people who have posted on here have agreed that TB deserves forgiveness, and a place at the mercy seat, as do we all. However, his position begs answers, and there are repercussions to sins such as the ones he is accused of commiting.

If you are so familiar with the board, perhaps you need to remind them that the 800 or so souls in that congregation have been deeply hurt, and it would do a world of good to come clean, and bring some answers before the people, as CC1 has already posted above.

What I am trying to get across is that the people who are posting lies and assumptions are wrong. That is NOT what The Lord would have us as Christians do. The facts WILL come out in due time. However, that is something that needs to be within the TPC church body. We don't owe any divulgence of ANY details of this situation to the apostolic community. A measure of patience is often necessary in many aspects of our lives. Why not in this also? You seem to be trying to fight some "cause" on behalf of all TPCers demanding they be told the magical truth. Well, thanks but we don't need you to fight our battles. The Lord Himself is dealing with this. It is in Him we put our trust, not a bunch of strife driven busy bodies. When people get over their opinions and realize it's not what we think or what we want that matters we can be a real force to reckon with in soul winning. There are MANY patient members waiting on The Lord to have His way and believe me any wrong-doing on the part of a board or a saint can and will be dealt with by God. He won't be mocked. No amount of debate by those not involved is going to change things. I suspect that you would have us DEMAND the whole story be told to the members in hopes that some of us will come and post the whole truth here for you all to read the juicy details or perhaps that one totally lacking in wisdom would actually RECORD it and post it here for you all to hear. That would be rich now, wouldn't it?

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Churchlady

What I am trying to get across is that the people who are posting lies and assumptions are wrong. That is NOT what The Lord would have us as Christians do. The facts WILL come out in due time. However, that is something that needs to be within the TPC church body. We don't owe any divulgence of ANY details of this situation to the apostolic community. A measure of patience is often necessary in many aspects of our lives. Why not in this also? You seem to be trying to fight some "cause" on behalf of all TPCers demanding they be told the magical truth. Well, thanks but we don't need you to fight our battles. The Lord Himself is dealing with this. It is in Him we put our trust, not a bunch of strife driven busy bodies. When people get over their opinions and realize it's not what we think or what we want that matters we can be a real force to reckon with in soul winning. There are MANY patient members waiting on The Lord to have His way and believe me any wrong-doing on the part of a board or a saint can and will be dealt with by God. He won't be mocked. No amount of debate by those not involved is going to change things. I suspect that you would have us DEMAND the whole story be told to the members in hopes that some of us will come and post the whole truth here for you all to read the juicy details or perhaps that one totally lacking in wisdom would actually RECORD it and post it here for you all to hear. That would be rich now, wouldn't it?

My point remains that the church needs to be involved with the process that is taking place. Truly, no one else, but the church members, need to know the details, but speculation and rumors could be set aside should there be a meeting where church members were informed of the process and decisions taking place. That information certainly wouldn't need to go beyond the church walls... but knowing human nature, no doubt it would.

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by Churchlady

What I am trying to get across is that the people who are posting lies and assumptions are wrong. That is NOT what The Lord would have us as Christians do. The facts WILL come out in due time. However, that is something that needs to be within the TPC church body. We don't owe any divulgence of ANY details of this situation to the apostolic community. A measure of patience is often necessary in many aspects of our lives. Why not in this also? You seem to be trying to fight some "cause" on behalf of all TPCers demanding they be told the magical truth. Well, thanks but we don't need you to fight our battles. The Lord Himself is dealing with this. It is in Him we put our trust, not a bunch of strife driven busy bodies. When people get over their opinions and realize it's not what we think or what we want that matters we can be a real force to reckon with in soul winning. There are MANY patient members waiting on The Lord to have His way and believe me any wrong-doing on the part of a board or a saint can and will be dealt with by God. He won't be mocked. No amount of debate by those not involved is going to change things. I suspect that you would have us DEMAND the whole story be told to the members in hopes that some of us will come and post the whole truth here for you all to read the juicy details or perhaps that one totally lacking in wisdom would actually RECORD it and post it here for you all to hear. That would be rich now, wouldn't it?

Amen!!! Leadership is also ACCCOUNTABLE to the flock that they serve. Answers should be given concerning the former Pastor's resignation, and why: it will help to heal and to bring closure...

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Churchlady

You are very wrong in your description of the first board member. None of these grown children of the lifelong missionaries is on the board if TPC. Further, your description of the second board member is in extremely poor taste. And your description of the third is partially true; however, he is not related to the family you suggest he is. How do you people that openly post lies or assumptions on this open forum sleep at night? You should all be ashamed of yourselves. These are hurting people you are further inflicting injury upon. This has nothing to do with you! The only thing anyone outside of this situation should be doing is keeping their mouth shut except to utter a prayer for the Black family and the members of TPC.

It appears that the church is being divided into two sides:
1. Supporters of TB
2. Supporters of the church board

This is normal and unfortunate. Exaggerations are adding fuel to the fire. Sad! Prayers please for this church!

[ttpaba]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

It appears that the church is being divided into two sides:
1. Supporters of TB
2. Supporters of the church board

This is normal and unfortunate. Exaggerations are adding fuel to the fire. Sad! Prayers please for this church!

I really, really hope that this doesn't happen but I hear it happens this way. I think our human nature leads us to choose sides but in this situation there are so many sides we look like a lopsided 3D decagon.

[ttpaba]

Originally Posted by Churchlady

You are very wrong in your description of the first board member. None of these grown children of the lifelong missionaries is on the board if TPC. Further, your description of the second board member is in extremely poor taste. And your description of the third is partially true; however, he is not related to the family you suggest he is. How do you people that openly post lies or assumptions on this open forum sleep at night? You should all be ashamed of yourselves. These are hurting people you are further inflicting injury upon. This has nothing to do with you! The only thing anyone outside of this situation should be doing is keeping their mouth shut except to utter a prayer for the Black family and the members of TPC.

You are correct to point out my mistake in my description of the board at TPC. I have in haste gotten confused on the role that certain church members played in the process that has lead to us, I did say US because I am a member of TPC, without a pastor for which I still don't know if it's a blessing or a curse.
This is in regards to my description of Board member number one.
Your opinion that my description of Board member number two is in extremely poor taste is an opinion you are free to have. Poor taste is not something intended but if you know the church, if you know the members, if you attend TPC then I'd ask you to PM me an understanding that would describe Board member number two in a tasteful way that includes his connections and demeanor.
Since I've been made aware of my confusion on the board members I'm not sure that board member number three is the correct one because some say the man I described removed himself from the board and some say otherwise.
I made the the incorrect description, I can blame no other, I pray forgiveness.

[Truthseeker]

More and more I can see the case for biblical pattern of elders overseeeing the church.

[MemphisTN]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

More and more I can see the case for biblical pattern of elders overseeeing the church.

I would also be curious to know if Pastor Terry Blacks Mother , MOTHER BLACK, was getting a Paycheck or if she was on the payroll of this church? Not to be mean, she is a sweet lady, The Blacks came in and took over this church or was voted in, His mom drove a Big blue 4 door Mercedes in the days when they took over. I believe that he should care for his Mother but I can almost bet you they found her a position on the Payroll. I now someone will call me out on this but it seems that that whole family including INLAWS were on payroll. If they can do the job hey they should get the job. But it was just a thought that occured to me.

[AreYouReady?]

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