Is The Gift of Tongues For Today?

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by jfrog

To qualify my last statement... tongues actually a bit more common in the new testament than any other supernatural sign. 120 spoke in tongues on the day of Pentecost or was it 12? Or maybe the bible doesn't specify the exact number. Either way it seems there are alot more people in the new testament that spoke in tongues than there is of any other supernatural gift.

But again, only 5 occurrences of tongues. There were FAR more instances of healings...blind, deaf, etc....and like I said, more instances of the dead being raised. In Acts two, it doesn't really specify how many of the 120 spoke with tongues, and there is no consensus among scholars exactly the number.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by jfrog

1 HowToConfoundOpponentsWithTheBible 2:38 Quote a verse and don't explain it's relation to the discussion you are currently involved in.

Ha... I wanted to, but then I felt lazy about it..

Oh well, here's what I was thinking based on your previous post.

Since tongues is kinda regarded as the last gift in the list in 1 Cor 12:28, I was thinking maybe the reason why tongues is more prevalent is that God gives the gift to the masses, but he gives the higher gifts to more responsible individuals. I hope you get my drift...I'm kinda finding it hard to explain what I mean..lol

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

But those who God has used to heal wheel chair cases are regarded as cult members...

Oh, I actually know a wheel case chair that was healed in America very recently. Of course, those churches do not happen to be on TV. I can post the website if wanted.

I've never heard of a person that genuinely can't walk...absolutely can't....being healed and then being accused of being in a cult.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by jfrog

"wheel case chair"... thats an interesting way of putting it lol.

Anyways don't blame me for being skeptical.

Haha... it's time to sleep for me

I meant "wheel chair case"

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

I've never heard of a person that genuinely can't walk...absolutely can't....being healed and then being accused of being in a cult.

How about the William Branham cases?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

But again, only 5 occurrences of tongues. There were FAR more instances of healings...blind, deaf, etc....and like I said, more instances of the dead being raised. In Acts two, it doesn't really specify how many of the 120 spoke with tongues, and there is no consensus among scholars exactly the number.

If my math is correct its more like (the Upper Room) 12-120 + (Corneliuses Household) 4-? + (John's Disciple's) 2-? + (Paul) 1 = 19 to 120+ recorded occurences of tongues.

Are you telling me theres more people who prophesied or who healed/were healed or anything else?

EDIT: I forgot the people at the church in Cornith... apparently there were some that spoke in tongues there... so I'll give them at least 2 minimum. That brings our total to: 21 to 120+ recorded occurences of tongues.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

How about the William Branham cases?

I don't know much about him except that there is a great amount of doubt any of those things actually took place.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

How about the William Branham cases?

I don't know much about Branham.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Ha... I wanted to, but then I felt lazy about it..

Oh well, here's what I was thinking based on your previous post.

Since tongues is kinda regarded as the last gift in the list in 1 Cor 12:28, I was thinking maybe the reason why tongues is more prevalent is that God gives the gift to the masses, but he gives the higher gifts to more responsible individuals. I hope you get my drift...I'm kinda finding it hard to explain what I mean..lol

I get your point. It's a good point, however its total speculation. Then again most of this tongues discussion is speculation so I'll let it fly

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by jfrog

If my math is correct its more like (the Upper Room) 12-120 + (Corneliuses Household) 4-? + (John's Disciple's) 2-? + (Paul) 1 = 19 to 120+ recorded occurences of tongues.

I don't believe there could have been more than 12 that were referred to in Acts 2. "Peter, standing up with the 11...". So if we go with the number "12", there were FAR more people healed in the bible than spake with tongues.

And what about people that experienced miracles...the feeding of the 5,000 (plus women & children), the millions of Jews that crossed the bottom of the Red Sea, etc. In the big scope of things, tongues is a miniscule part of the supernatural workings of God. So I would wonder, why the pentecostal fascination with it?