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10-06-2014, 04:28 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
[QUOTE=good samaritan;1337620]Sean I was kidding a little with that last post. The thing is in our country we have very few literally poor people that can't give. There are many people who aren't good stewards and their finances are so poorly managed that they feel like that giving to the work of God is the corner they should cut. If I don't teach giving (many times sacrificially) then not only will people not do it....etc.
I know bro. I love a good laugh. Have you seen the unemployment rates and how many gave up looking for a job in our country? I started as a Journeyman tradesman in 1985, making 19 bucks an hour in my union. These same guys these days are making about 3 bucks more than then. Gas prices have tripled, housing has tripled, insurance is mandatory(health and auto), rents have tripled, food has tripled, electricity has tripled. EVERYTHING HAS TRIPLED BRO. Folks just dont have the money we think they have....Just wait 'til your kids turn of age to leave home bro. It may be when they are 30, unless they join the military.
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10-06-2014, 04:54 PM
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I know bro. I love a good laugh. Have you seen the unemployment rates and how many gave up looking for a job in our country? I started as a Journeyman tradesman in 1985, making 19 bucks an hour in my union. These same guys these days are making about 3 bucks more than then. Gas prices have tripled, housing has tripled, insurance is mandatory(health and auto), rents have tripled, food has tripled, electricity has tripled. EVERYTHING HAS TRIPLED BRO. Folks just dont have the money we think they have....Just wait 'til your kids turn of age to leave home bro. It may be when they are 30, unless they join the military
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Sean I make a gross of 1400 a month and it has been this was for several years. I have 2 kids and pay rent, but I have paid tithes (for the most part) for the last ten years anyways. once again I don't place a command on it to my church, but I already know that many that say they can't afford to really can. I don't want their money I just want to see them grow in their walk with God.
I am telling this to you now because of the topic of this thread, but I don't say things like this to my church. I consider it meddling. I am not telling people in my church that they must tithe, but I am not going to pat someone on the back and tell them they are doing all they can. When in fact their contributions don't show it in anyway. We are not blind you can most of the time see if someone is trying or not.
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10-06-2014, 06:53 PM
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Sean I make a gross of 1400 a month and it has been this was for several years. I have 2 kids and pay rent, but I have paid tithes (for the most part) for the last ten years anyways. once again I don't place a command on it to my church, but I already know that many that say they can't afford to really can. I don't want their money I just want to see them grow in their walk with God.
I am telling this to you now because of the topic of this thread, but I don't say things like this to my church. I consider it meddling. I am not telling people in my church that they must tithe, but I am not going to pat someone on the back and tell them they are doing all they can. When in fact their contributions don't show it in anyway. We are not blind you can most of the time see if someone is trying or not.
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Brother, if you want the Lord to bless you with even more abundance, denounce tithing publically...LOL
If its good enough for others, its good enough for you right?...LOL
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10-06-2014, 04:32 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
Go buy a car today, its the cost of a house in the 70s when I got saved....
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10-06-2014, 04:35 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
Why dont we just triple the size of our churches, and charge 3% dues....Its closer to fulfilling the Great Commission.
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10-06-2014, 04:43 PM
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I have a friend that is a minister of the Apostolic Church of Ethiopia(the fastest growing oneness movement in the world). He told me that they have never taught tithing as an organization. He said it is only happening in America, where all the money is.
This country has become a charlatans dream for many.
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10-06-2014, 05:04 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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I have a friend that is a minister of the Apostolic Church of Ethiopia(the fastest growing oneness movement in the world). He told me that they have never taught tithing as an organization. He said it is only happening in America, where all the money is.
This country has become a charlatans dream for many.
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I agree with you in a lot of ways, but change should take place carefully and prayerfully. Tithing isn't the problem, but this nation has been a nation who serve mammon. We probably are known all over the world as the most material sell out your own mother nation in the world. It isn't just ministers with the problem it is this nation. The problem is bigger than we know.
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10-06-2014, 07:04 PM
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I agree with you in a lot of ways, but change should take place carefully and prayerfully. Tithing isn't the problem, but this nation has been a nation who serve mammon. We probably are known all over the world as the most material sell out your own mother nation in the world. It isn't just ministers with the problem it is this nation. The problem is bigger than we know.
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Well, watch Christian programming for a few hours...these guys are doing everything to relieve us of our mammon.
We are right behind them in some of our churches. Selling Malachi to the saints....telling them to tithe and just wait for the lord to open the windows of heaven. Meanwhile, the Lord just watches us....
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10-06-2014, 07:08 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Well, watch Christian programming for a few hours...these guys are doing everything to relieve us of our mammon.
We are right behind them in some of our churches. Selling Malachi to the saints....telling them to tithe and just wait for the lord to open the windows of heaven. Meanwhile, the Lord just watches us....
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That is not the circles I fellowship nor do I have confidence any of the ones you have in mind.
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10-06-2014, 07:15 PM
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That is not the circles I fellowship nor do I have confidence any of the ones you have in mind.
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If you were in California for a year you would understand where I am coming from bro.
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