Tithing…Is it a command?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

You an angry man, ain't ya? Guess I really stepped on your carnal toes, didn't I?

Christ fulfilled the Law - Matthew 5:17-18
Did the Scriptures teach that which was BEFORE the Law was fulfilled? Answer me this.... (in your angry ungodly voice) TODAY!

No, actually I am stirring the pot today. Just having a good time.Its fun to be in the drivers seat bro.

[UnTraditional]

We do, when we give tithes. We are giving spiritually the firstfruits unto the Lord. In so doing, we give both spiritually and physically, as was also before the Law. When Jacob vowed to give tithes of all before the Lord in genesis, he made the vow both spiritual and physical. How? By putting God first, and then showing it. In water baptism, we undergo spiritual circumcision through real physical water baptism. The spiritual effect is attached to the physical act.

As in circumcision, so also is the tithe.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

We do, when we give tithes. We are giving spiritually the firstfruits unto the Lord. In so doing, we give both spiritually and physically, as was also before the Law. When Jacob vowed to give tithes of all before the Lord in genesis, he made the vow both spiritual and physical. How? By putting God first, and then showing it. In water baptism, we undergo spiritual circumcision through real physical water baptism. The spiritual effect is attached to the physical act.

As in circumcision, so also is the tithe.

So you think you are physically being circumcised in the water, or is it SYMBOLIC of circumcision?

[UnTraditional]

Originally Posted by Sean

So you think you are physically being circumcised in the water, or is it SYMBOLIC of circumcision?

Did you read what I said, or did you just glance, pick and choose, then gush?
Listen, i would love to continue this diatribe, but I have to go to work and make money, because I love God enough to give Him the first, not the leftovers.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

Did you read what I said, or did you just glance, pick and choose, then gush?
Listen, i would love to continue this diatribe, but I have to go to work and make money, because I love God enough to give Him the first, not the leftovers.

I read it, I am just picking your theology apart for you to see what you are proposing here. I need to work also..see ya later.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

Did you read what I said, or did you just glance, pick and choose, then gush?
Listen, i would love to continue this diatribe, but I have to go to work and make money, because I love God enough to give Him the first, not the leftovers.

Unless God specifically told you to give a certain amount during a certain pay period, then you are not "giving God leftovers". This past week I took home 500 dollars for 2 weeks work. I had a 200 dollar electric bill, a 110 dollar car insurance payment, a 50 dollar IRS payment, That leaves me 140 dollars until Oct 15 for gasoline and groceries for a wife and 2 kids. I don't think God is interested in me doing anything with that money other than living very conservatively until next pay day. Granted there are times when we are called to give our last bit of meal and oil, but those are times ordained by God and not man.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

We do, when we give tithes. We are giving spiritually the firstfruits unto the Lord. In so doing, we give both spiritually and physically, as was also before the Law. When Jacob vowed to give tithes of all before the Lord in genesis, he made the vow both spiritual and physical. How? By putting God first, and then showing it. In water baptism, we undergo spiritual circumcision through real physical water baptism. The spiritual effect is attached to the physical act.

As in circumcision, so also is the tithe.

First fruits were not tithes--and they surely were not money. Why wasn't Jacob already tithing?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Rudy

First fruits were not tithes--and they surely were not money. Why wasn't Jacob already tithing?

Amen. How can any honest person try to equate an agricultural statement like "first fruits" to money? Sure the term can be used in a figurative sense, but where does that occur in the New Testament in reference to offerings of money?

[Sean]

Better call your pastor on that one!

[Sean]

Doesnt the tithe of the O.T. Law symbolize something also?