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Old 11-17-2014, 08:19 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

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Brother, this flip/ flop is a complete reversal by UNTRADITIONAL...he has other stuff that we have seen him do a complete reversal on.
This lets me know, that he is unsettled and should look at both sides of the coin carefully before it is flipped.
And such a radical flip flop at that. So is he now saying that he himself was in rebellion and practicing witchcraft when he held the view that tithing was not for the New Testament Church?
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Old 11-16-2014, 05:43 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

Tithing money is too big to stop. The average saint will not study this issue. Too much fear and doom. Printing tracs, renting bill boards, alternative places to meet would surely help. To me it is an urgent need as many are stressed and this has effected relationships. The sick and dying are even threatened. Some have even informed backsliders they are to pay up for time backslid.

There use to be a website to print tracs. I can no longer locate it.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:56 PM
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Tithing money is too big to stop. The average saint will not study this issue. Too much fear and doom. Printing tracs, renting bill boards, alternative places to meet would surely help. To me it is an urgent need as many are stressed and this has effected relationships. The sick and dying are even threatened. Some have even informed backsliders they are to pay up for time backslid.

There use to be a website to print tracs. I can no longer locate it.

It is grievous.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:55 PM
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Some have even informed backsliders they are to pay up for time backslid.
Some would owe a great deal of money! LOL
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Old 11-16-2014, 11:55 PM
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Tithing money is too big to stop. The average saint will not study this issue. Too much fear and doom. Printing tracs, renting bill boards, alternative places to meet would surely help. To me it is an urgent need as many are stressed and this has effected relationships. The sick and dying are even threatened. Some have even informed backsliders they are to pay up for time backslid.

There use to be a website to print tracs. I can no longer locate it.
I preached on tithing today and will likely preach on it again next week before transitioning to Gods plan for giving in the New Covenant and challenging the church to find individuals in need to help during the holidays.

To say it was well received would be an understatement.

Over 3 years ago I began writing a book on Tithing. I got busy forgot about it and just don't have much confidence in myself. In preparation for the lesson on tithing I happened to open up that file on my computer. I didn't realize how much work I'd done 8 chapters and nearly 90 pages) and I was more surprised by how good a read it was (at least in my opinion). I was thinking to myself "did I write this"?! Anyhow its been so long I began reading through a lot of it today (still have 30+ pages to go) just to see what I've addressed and not addressed. Don't be surprised if I break it out in 2015.
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Old 11-17-2014, 06:39 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

Pastor Badejo, I'd love to get a copy if you do publish it.

It's amazing to go back over your notes and see what effort you put into things sometimes. The hard part can be whether or not you trust what you've previously done. I've re-researched stuff only to discover that I've come to the same exact conclusion and I could've saved a lot of effort if only I had trusted my previous studies. I suppose though, that it's good to periodically check where you stand on issues as the Lord has a way of bringing us to a better understanding of issues through our walk with Him.
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Old 11-17-2014, 08:57 AM
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Pastor Badejo, I'd love to get a copy if you do publish it.

It's amazing to go back over your notes and see what effort you put into things sometimes. The hard part can be whether or not you trust what you've previously done. I've re-researched stuff only to discover that I've come to the same exact conclusion and I could've saved a lot of effort if only I had trusted my previous studies. I suppose though, that it's good to periodically check where you stand on issues as the Lord has a way of bringing us to a better understanding of issues through our walk with Him.
I appreciate your kindness. I will send you the first chapter to see what you think.

You are completely right about looking over your notes. I know that my theology has "evolved" over the last few years but I was surprised by how close that book was with my current views, not only on tithing but also soteriology, theology, and ecclesiology.

But I agree it is good to check and see where we are. I've said over the last year that I am still in the formation stage of what I believe. (At one time I thought I had it ALL figured out). So I'm just following God as best I can. I feel pretty good about where I am on some doctrines and there are others (or wrinkles to others) I'd like to dig into more.

Tithing is probably one doctrine that I am most confident in. That's not to say I still couldn't learn a lot, especially digging into the Law, but as far as if we are required as Christians to give 10%, I think that is an easy question to settle if someone will just honestly consider the scripture. I don't even think its a debate.
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Old 11-17-2014, 09:50 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

I know of a situation where the pastor had those that pay tithes to stand. Thus leaving the non-tithers exposed. I believe the 3rd time he told them to stand in the middle isle and tell the non-tithers they are going to hell.

There are some who have quit tithing because of the information found here on this forum. There seems to be a lot of visitors that frequent here. Why don't they join?
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Old 11-17-2014, 11:27 AM
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Can't find Global Net.
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