What the World Sees as Apostolic

[Thad]

Originally Posted by tv1a

OGIA,
No one can explain apostolic scripturally. It is all speculation. Rosie O'Donnell is just as apostolic as you are. Picking a few words of scriptures for a selective self serving definitions doesn't mean a thing. We know legalism breeds self-serving definitions. Can't call electronice video devices a television. Have to call it a monitor to get by the standards patrol. Can't have television because of the junk that's on it. But it's okay to have internet access.

Even if I wanted to explain what an apostolic is, there are no scriptures to define what an apostolic is. I choose to stay in the Word. People can make up their own minds.

I notice the novel approach of denying the fact your definition of apostolic is not a mainstream definition of apostolic. You're pseudo concern of whether I'm sharing my faith or not is irrelevant to the conversation.

Your post proves since you have no credible defense against the message, to attack the messager. Annas and Ciaaphas would be so proud of you.

This post is was posted with a Bad Spirit. now, I too have not been able to eqaute the difference between preaching agianst TV and internet either knowing how detrimental both can be and perhaps internet being the worst of the 2 evils, but to refer to OGIA as a Rosie Odonnell is really Low

[tv1a]

ogia,
btw, the innuendos will not be dignified with a response because you are attempting to trivialize someone who has a diffrent opinion. This post is one of the most psuedo intellectual posts I've seen in a while.

One doesn't have enough time to explain how a clothesline doctrine fits into signs following a believer. It takes a lot of hot air to make sense out man made standards.

Originally Posted by OGIA

Bro. Strange,

I agree with your post, but I don't see what it has to do with the thread? Someone spoke to an educated, religious woman who thought "Apostolic" was defined by outward standards and with legalism. It was also said, "She doesn't equate an apostolic as being a spirit filled believer who operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost."

While your post has truth in it, it does not answer the problem this woman has. She might be educated and religious, but she is not born again (that I've read) and apparently no one has ever taken the time to talk with her about what she believes and why, and, even moreso, explain scripturally what "Apostolic" does mean.

I don't see it and can't assume it didn't happen, but I wonder if the originator of this thread has an Apostolic church which "operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost" to take her to? If so, was she invited?

Also, I wonder how the originator of this thread answered this educated, religious woman's definition? Did he/she attempt to define "Apostolic" by scripture, or did he/she just agree and reinforce this woman's ignorance? If the latter, then I don't know why he/she would even start this thread, seeing as he/she shirked his/her responsibility to this woman.

It's fun to come on and bash standards, but I wonder if the educated, religious woman in this thread is any closer to being born again than she was before the conversation? That's what it's all about, isn't it?

Originally Posted by OGIA

Bro. Strange,

I agree with your post, but I don't see what it has to do with the thread? Someone spoke to an educated, religious woman who thought "Apostolic" was defined by outward standards and with legalism. It was also said, "She doesn't equate an apostolic as being a spirit filled believer who operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost."

While your post has truth in it, it does not answer the problem this woman has. She might be educated and religious, but she is not born again (that I've read) and apparently no one has ever taken the time to talk with her about what she believes and why, and, even moreso, explain scripturally what "Apostolic" does mean.

I don't see it and can't assume it didn't happen, but I wonder if the originator of this thread has an Apostolic church which "operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost" to take her to? If so, was she invited?

Also, I wonder how the originator of this thread answered this educated, religious woman's definition? Did he/she attempt to define "Apostolic" by scripture, or did he/she just agree and reinforce this woman's ignorance? If the latter, then I don't know why he/she would even start this thread, seeing as he/she shirked his/her responsibility to this woman.

It's fun to come on and bash standards, but I wonder if the educated, religious woman in this thread is any closer to being born again than she was before the conversation? That's what it's all about, isn't it?

Central to the spirit of the title of this thread, "What the World Sees as Apostolic," lifts the curtain of discussion to reveal every species of dancing spirits in full motion. It was my purpose to address some of these spirits with the Word of God rather than to address a specific scenario presented by the originator of this thread.

It is a crying shame that, if it be so, that the attentions of the world have been focused upon our FLESH and how it is displayed before the world instead of the LIGHT of Christ so exibited within us. If we are so insane as to exhibit before the world OUR FLESH with its adornments or the lack of it, as our LIGHT from a city set upon a hill, our present day Apostolic doctrine has DECEIVED us.

Yet, I know this sad state of affair is true, calling it "separation," while it is not separation at all but rather, it has become just another sub-set of worldliness, abeit, religious worldliness.

So, the dance of spirits continued as this discussion ensued. Again, I want to re-empahsize that our LIGHT will never be a display of FLESH, regardless of how it is, or is not adorned, but rather as the song says...

If I can help somebody as I travel 'long
If I can help somebody with a word or song
If I can show somebody when he's travlin' wrong
Then my living shall not be in vain

If collectively we can embrace THIS focus, we will then give God glory and the world will see Jesus (the light) in us as a bright city set upon a hill that cannot be moved. Otherwise, we will, under the guise of Apostolic Doctrine continue to focus the attentions of the world upon (unholy) FLESH by which the world is not impressed. They already have plenty of their own.

Regardless, I suspect the endless dance of many and varied species of spirits will continue to infinity...or at least, until Jesus says, "ENOUGH."

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Central to the spirit of the title of this thread, "What the World Sees as Apostolic," lifts the curtain of discussion to reveal every species of dancing spirits in full motion. It was my purpose to address some of these spirits with the Word of God rather than to address a specific scenario presented by the originator of this thread.

It is a crying shame that, if it be so, that the attentions of the world have been focused upon our FLESH and how it is displayed before the world instead of the LIGHT of Christ so exibited within us. If we are so insane as to exhibit before the world OUR FLESH with its adornments or the lack of it, as our LIGHT from a city set upon a hill, our present day Apostolic doctrine has DECEIVED us.

Yet, I know this sad state of affair is true, calling it "separation," while it is not separation at all but rather, it has become just another sub-set of worldliness, abeit, religious worldliness.

So, the dance of spirits continued as this discussion ensued. Again, I want to re-empahsize that our LIGHT will never be a display of FLESH, regardless of how it is, or is not adorned, but rather as the song says...

If I can help somebody as I travel 'long
If I can help somebody with a word or song
If I can show somebody when he's travlin' wrong
Then my living shall not be in vain

If collectively we can embrace THIS focus, we will then give God glory and the world will see Jesus (the light) in us as a bright city set upon a hill that cannot be moved. Otherwise, we will, under the guise of Apostolic Doctrine continue to focus the attentions of the world upon (unholy) FLESH by which the world is not impressed. They already have plenty of their own.

Regardless, I suspect the endless dance of many and varied species of spirits will continue to infinity...or at least, until Jesus says, "ENOUGH."

Tek has his Divine Flesh doctrine... while some have their unholy Flesh doctrine .... Elder ... I think you've coined a new phrase ....

Outstanding insights ....as always.

[tv1a]

It saddens me that people don't think of Jesus when they think of an apostolic. People don't even think of the apostles when they hear the word apostolic. I'm still trying to figure out how they are going to win people to Jesus when what is displayed isn't Biblical.

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Central to the spirit of the title of this thread, "What the World Sees as Apostolic," lifts the curtain of discussion to reveal every species of dancing spirits in full motion. It was my purpose to address some of these spirits with the Word of God rather than to address a specific scenario presented by the originator of this thread.

It is a crying shame that, if it be so, that the attentions of the world have been focused upon our FLESH and how it is displayed before the world instead of the LIGHT of Christ so exibited within us. If we are so insane as to exhibit before the world OUR FLESH with its adornments or the lack of it, as our LIGHT from a city set upon a hill, our present day Apostolic doctrine has DECEIVED us.

Yet, I know this sad state of affair is true, calling it "separation," while it is not separation at all but rather, it has become just another sub-set of worldliness, abeit, religious worldliness.

So, the dance of spirits continued as this discussion ensued. Again, I want to re-empahsize that our LIGHT will never be a display of FLESH, regardless of how it is, or is not adorned, but rather as the song says...

If I can help somebody as I travel 'long
If I can help somebody with a word or song
If I can show somebody when he's travlin' wrong
Then my living shall not be in vain

If collectively we can embrace THIS focus, we will then give God glory and the world will see Jesus (the light) in us as a bright city set upon a hill that cannot be moved. Otherwise, we will, under the guise of Apostolic Doctrine continue to focus the attentions of the world upon (unholy) FLESH by which the world is not impressed. They already have plenty of their own.

Regardless, I suspect the endless dance of many and varied species of spirits will continue to infinity...or at least, until Jesus says, "ENOUGH."

[berkeley]

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

[Old Paths]

Oh I know what the Gospel is.

I have lived the Gospel and preached the Gospel all of my life,but having dealt with them for a life time, I also know how spiritually blinded people think.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Oh I know what the Gospel is.

I have lived the Gospel and preached the Gospel all of my life,but having dealt with them for a life time, I also know how spiritually blinded people think.

Perhaps you should then be more responsible when hurling scripture javelins.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Perhaps you should then be more responsible when hurling scripture javelins.

HI Danny isn't it a wonderful Saturday?

The sky is blue.

The birds in the backyard are singing.

And not a bad attitude any where near my place.

Now you have a great weekend.

God is Good.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

HI Danny isn't it a wonderful Saturday?

The sky is blue.

The birds in the backyard are singing.

And not a bad attitude any where near my place.

Now you have a great weekend.

God is Good.

It's a great day .... OP

He's GOOD ALL THE TIME ... my peninsular brother ....

It's gonna be a bright and sunny day ....

Stay cool.

Dan