In all seriousness. If I were in some way affiliated with this church, my concerns would not be with what happened to _____ in the past. That is pretty much come out in the open and someone is paying a serious price.
My interest would be in seeing if the church is making the needed changes to move forward in an open transparent way.
holding on to this, prying into minute details and seeking to know all the dirty laundry can only hurt innocent people and jade the individual against the good folks that never did anything wrong.
I don’t seek any protection for the guilty. They are/will reap a whirlwind and rightfully so. I am sorry for all those who have been hurt. I am sorry for all those who put faith in a man who abused that trust. It just might be time to pick up, move on and find your happy place.
Just a few weeks ago, while talking to someone who had suffered a terrible indignity, anger should never be the motive for action. Anger is a justifiable emotion and may be the catalyst for focus on some wrong. But anger itself must be a transitional emotion that only lasts for a moment. Action should be sourced from reason and reason is not an ally of anger.
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If you're giving to God, it shouldn't matter. If you are going to micromanage, you're better finding another place to invest in the kingdom.
Find another place to invest... Hmmmm... Really???? Is this the way MOST ministers feel? In other words, if I want an accounting of the finances, then I should just "get lost" ???? Thanks for the advice. I've heard it before.
Let me just put it this way... As a teacher, I always welcome when the administration "spot checks" my lesson plans and "pops" in on my classroom for observations. Of course, I only WELCOME these opportunities because I am doing exactly what I am supposed to be doing. On the other hand, there are those teachers who CRINGE when it's checkup time and wish that admin would just go away.
Which type are you???
Last edited by Fiyahstarter; 12-08-2012 at 06:16 PM.
Why do you give? It's an investment. You believe in the vision. Know one really gives without expecting results. You invest your money in projects or people you believe in. If you have any questions, you have a responsibility to protect your resources or reallocate them into a more productive environment. It is naive to think giving is not an investment. If you don't like how your money is spent, don't complain about it. Take your contributions elsewhere. If enough people do that, the offending corporation would fold or change their practices.
The Bible gives numerous examples of corporate accountability in the church. There is no problem opening the books.
There is a reason Christ chose successful business owners as disciples. The New Testament church operated as a business from day one. Appointing someone to fill in Judas's spot on the board of directors, appointing people to take care of the treasury, delegating responsibilities. The Apostles had that training before they became disciples. Christ taught them how to apply Kingdom Principles. Combine those two along with the power and demonstration of the Holy Spirit, you find the church set up for success, rapid growth, and the ability to help other saints in need. Christ used business owners to establish His church.
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Find another place to invest... Hmmmm... Really???? Is this the way MOST ministers feel? In other words, if I want an accounting of the finances, then I should just "get lost" ???? Thanks for the advice. I've heard it before.
Let me just put it this way... As a teacher, I always welcome when the administration "spot checks" my lesson plans and "pops" in on my classroom for observations. Of course, I only WELCOME these opportunities because I am doing exactly what I am supposed to be doing. On the other hand, there are those teachers who CRINGE when it's checkup time and wish that admin would just go away.
Which type are you???
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
Why do you give? It's an investment. You believe in the vision. Know one really gives without expecting results. You invest your money in projects or people you believe in. If you have any questions, you have a responsibility to protect your resources or reallocate them into a more productive environment. It is naive to think giving is not an investment. If you don't like how your money is spent, don't complain about it. Take your contributions elsewhere. If enough people do that, the offending corporation would fold or change their practices.
The Bible gives numerous examples of corporate accountability in the church. There is no problem opening the books.
There is a reason Christ chose successful business owners as disciples. The New Testament church operated as a business from day one. Appointing someone to fill in Judas's spot on the board of directors, appointing people to take care of the treasury, delegating responsibilities. The Apostles had that training before they became disciples. Christ taught them how to apply Kingdom Principles. Combine those two along with the power and demonstration of the Holy Spirit, you find the church set up for success, rapid growth, and the ability to help other saints in need. Christ used business owners to establish His church.
Name scriptural 'corporate accountability' in the church.
Jesus said that my kingdom is not of this world. So if you are running your church like the world, then you do not have the mind of Christ. You have a worldly mind. James 4:4 said that whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
Simon the sorcerer thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
Peter told him that he had no part or lot in the matter. That his money perishes with him. Peter perceived that he was in the gall of bitterness and the bond of iniquity because he thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money. So therefore if you 'invest' money in someone or something, what are you expecting back? Something spiritual or something carnal?
Corporate is a worldly term. You have to align yourself with the worldly system to incorporate. Christ told us to come out from among them and be separate.
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