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01-02-2013, 12:10 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Speaking of Rome you never did answer if you had an Xmas tree?
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You never explained your view that the blood of the Lamb of God isn't imputed to an individual without your intercession with God on behalf of that individual.

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01-02-2013, 03:19 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
but if you like i can rewrite the story and do it in paragraph style for you.
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01-02-2013, 03:36 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Thank you CC1...its been a blow to the heart....to say the least!
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01-02-2013, 03:43 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Poor Terry Black. He's so misunderstood and mistreated.
I think we should receive an offering for him.
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01-02-2013, 03:47 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Poor Terry Black. He's so misunderstood and mistreated.
I think we should receive an offering for him.
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 rofl.....yeah...so he can buy another BMW for his daughter or son....lol and say its going to a worthy cause! >:-(
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May the sun bring you new energy by day, the moon softly restore you by night, may the rain wash away your worries, may the breeze blow new strength into your being, may you walk gently through the world and know it's beauty all the days of your life~
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01-02-2013, 05:30 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
The UPCI only discovered "restoration" when the bluebloods son's started having moral failures. Right off the top of my head I can think of three UPC 20th century legends whose sons required either restoration or the appearance of it in the past 25 years or so.
As someone mentioned these sons received treatment strictly based on their last name. Any other licensed minister in their situation would have been toast with no questions asked.
I still highly respect all three of the elders (father's) I refer to but no doubt this bias toward protecting their sons was a weakness. The same weakness I see in much of old time Pentecost and in ex old time Pentecost churches where churches are passed down to sons like a deserved legacy regardless of whether or not the sons are the best person to lead the flock.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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01-03-2013, 01:16 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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The UPCI only discovered "restoration" when the bluebloods son's started having moral failures. Right off the top of my head I can think of three UPC 20th century legends whose sons required either restoration or the appearance of it in the past 25 years or so.
As someone mentioned these sons received treatment strictly based on their last name. Any other licensed minister in their situation would have been toast with no questions asked.
I still highly respect all three of the elders (father's) I refer to but no doubt this bias toward protecting their sons was a weakness. The same weakness I see in much of old time Pentecost and in ex old time Pentecost churches where churches are passed down to sons like a deserved legacy regardless of whether or not the sons are the best person to lead the flock.
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Amen!!!!
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01-02-2013, 10:49 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Just wondering... does this church have an active benevolent fund for the unfortunate?
It would be awesome if they do.
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01-03-2013, 12:24 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
WOW.
That is a sad ending for that former pastor, Bro. Swift.
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01-03-2013, 01:28 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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WOW.
That is a sad ending for that former pastor, Bro. Swift.
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Amen!!! I was disciplined {silenced from preaching} twice as a young minister over 25 years ago, and once about 20 years ago while pastoring; NO adultery or money issues involved; just the growing challenges of getting along in my marriage during our first year, and once for not making wise decision with a family in the church, and while it was pauinfully embarrasing, and hurtful to my ego; it helped to make me a better husband-minister, and pastor. I thank God for the ministers that's not afraid to hold other leadership; even pastors accountable for their actions; if this is done according to biblical principles; it would help to detour possible shipwrecks of scandals, and it would spare God people from harm, and the church from the snares of reproach!!! I AM VERY AWARE OF WHAT'S EXPECTED OF MY BY GOD-THE CHURCH, AND THE WORLD!!! GODLY CHARACTER, AND INTEGRITY!!!
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