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02-25-2013, 07:50 PM
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Re: 3 Times in Acts--In His Name
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Yes, words do matter! In water baptism its the POWER inherent "in the name of Jesus"! Water doesn't remit sins, but the "name" does.
Did you ever note why there was "joy" expressed by the 70 disciples whom Jesus appointed, in groups of two, when they returned and reported to them the success of their ministry?
"And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name" ( Luke 10:17, KJV).
It was through the POWER inherent "in the NAME of Jesus" to which the 70 were able to cast out devils. And how do you suppose they did that? With the spoken word, of course!
Yes, words do matter! A failure to verbally express the words "in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ" at water baptism results in NO remission of sins! Its ALL "in the NAME" being verbally expressed! |
Your position is that another person's sins are not remitted, the blood of the Lamb of God isn't imputed/applied until YOU perform properly on their behalf?
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02-25-2013, 08:08 PM
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Re: 3 Times in Acts--In His Name
So what your saying is when you got Baptized in the Titles Father, Son and Holyghost the Preacher did not say it Out Loud?
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02-25-2013, 08:11 PM
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Re: 3 Times in Acts--In His Name
And if your Response should be "Yes he did say it out loud"
May i ask What for?
If saying it did not mean Anything?...
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02-25-2013, 08:15 PM
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Re: 3 Times in Acts--In His Name
If Paul Would have Never Said "In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth" That Lame Man would have never got up and Walked!
Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, “Silver or gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk.”
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02-26-2013, 04:00 AM
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This is still that!
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Re: 3 Times in Acts--In His Name
The apostles said to do "all" in the name of Jesus.
The authorities commanded them not to speak or teach in the name of Jesus.
It's hard for me to imagine that they did all in the name of Jesus with the exception of baptism.
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02-26-2013, 06:10 AM
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Re: 3 Times in Acts--In His Name
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Your position is that another person's sins are not remitted, the blood of the Lamb of God isn't imputed/applied until YOU perform properly on their behalf?
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Keep driving your questions home someone might begin to understand what you are driving at, I do.
What gets me is that on one hand we preach Jesus did the work on the cross for us. Then we step back and give a list of "what you must do" in order to recieve the free gift of God. All in the face of the teaching of Paul that "salvaton is by faith and not of works".
Ah but I digress carry on, but I will say this. Most of you might as well return to the RCC you protest, because other than the words you say your actions are the same. You teach in the power of the priest hood over the saints. You still continue in the rituals and traditions passed down by the RCC, just changed the names.
What Seekeman is trying to drive home is "if the man behind the pulpit does not perform the ritual in the proper manner than you are not saved", This is just not true. Salvation of individual not relegated by the one performing a ritual over you. It is by your own faith, not that of some so called pastor, preacher, pope, bishop ect.
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02-26-2013, 11:51 AM
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Re: 3 Times in Acts--In His Name
You are to be baptized by obedience by the man of God invoking the Name of Jesus. Acts 4:12. "
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02-26-2013, 12:09 PM
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Re: 3 Times in Acts--In His Name
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Seekerman
Keep driving your questions home someone might begin to understand what you are driving at, I do.
What gets me is that on one hand we preach Jesus did the work on the cross for us. Then we step back and give a list of "what you must do" in order to recieve the free gift of God. All in the face of the teaching of Paul that "salvaton is by faith and not of works".
Ah but I digress carry on, but I will say this. Most of you might as well return to the RCC you protest, because other than the words you say your actions are the same. You teach in the power of the priest hood over the saints. You still continue in the rituals and traditions passed down by the RCC, just changed the names.
What Seekeman is trying to drive home is "if the man behind the pulpit does not perform the ritual in the proper manner than you are not saved", This is just not true. Salvation of individual not relegated by the one performing a ritual over you. It is by your own faith, not that of some so called pastor, preacher, pope, bishop ect.
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Exactly. One's salvation, application/imputation of the blood of the Lamb of God isn't dependent upon man, it's dependent upon the perfect sacrifice, the perfect high priest, Jesus Christ. Romanists wish to place a man between God and man which is in effect pushing Jesus Christ aside and placing faith in the perfect and correct work of another man.
It's bordering on blasphemy.
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02-26-2013, 12:10 PM
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Rebel with a cause.
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Re: 3 Times in Acts--In His Name
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Originally Posted by seekerman
Exactly. One's salvation, application/imputation of the blood of the Lamb of God isn't dependent upon man, it's dependent upon the perfect sacrifice, the perfect high priest, Jesus Christ. Romanists wish to place a man between God and man which is in effect pushing Jesus Christ aside and placing faith in the perfect and correct work of another man.
It's bordering on blasphemy.
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You just hope you get baptized by a preacher who does NOT have a speech impediment.
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02-26-2013, 12:11 PM
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Re: 3 Times in Acts--In His Name
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You are to be baptized by obedience by the man of God invoking the Name of Jesus. Acts 4:12. " |
You're discarding Jesus and replacing Him with a "man of God" which some identify as the priests, bishops, cardinals or popes.
What "man of God" imputed/applied the blood of the Lamb of God unto you?
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