Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

[Hoovie]

Prax,
it's imperative as a member of the modern day churches, that one develop the art of selective hearing - rejecting the salmonella and other festering poisons and carefully recieve the rest for later digestion. I personally practice this, and like water of a ducks back have sat nodding politely through entire sermons that I had no intention of receiving as gospel. I practice it at all times and Mother's Day or Father's Day is no different.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Prax,
it's imperative as a member of the modern day churches, that one develop the art of selective hearing - rejecting the salmonella and other festering poisons and carefully recieve the rest for later digestion. I personally practice this, and like water of a ducks back have sat nodding politely through entire sermons that I had no intention of receiving as gospel. I practice it at all times and Mother's Day or Father's Day is no different.

I have a couple of very sincere questions for you Hoovie as I am contemplating this very thing as how I will handle a return to church if/when my husband ever insists or I feel compelled for other reasons...

1. How do you reconcile this with your conscience? Do you not feel any internal guilt over the appearance of tacitly agreeing with thing you do not genuinely believe?

2. How do you teach your children that it is OK to ignore much of what they hear preached in church while absorbing the important parts... especially in churches where part of what is preached has to do with it being a sin to speak against of the 'man of God'?

Thanks in advance.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Prax,
it's imperative as a member of the modern day churches, that one develop the art of selective hearing - rejecting the salmonella and other festering poisons and carefully recieve the rest for later digestion. I personally practice this, and like water of a ducks back have sat nodding politely through entire sermons that I had no intention of receiving as gospel. I practice it at all times and Mother's Day or Father's Day is no different.

Hoove, would you truly ignore THIS sewage -like water rolling off a ducks back, if you heard it from the pulpit of your church? LOL

From the other thread.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Hoove, would you truly ignore THIS sewage like water rolling off a ducks back, if you heard it from the pulpit of your church? LOL

From the other thread.

I'm not Hoovie, but if I was, I would answer that it is a fine line who's location is different for every person listening. For instance if I heard the bilge from the video I just posted, i would not even wait for the end of the sermon, but would walk out during it. There are no doubt many other things of a more minor nature that I would be willing to sit through even though I disagreed.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I'm not Hoovie, but if I was, I would answer that it is a fine line who's location is different for every person listening. For instance if I heard the bilge from the video I just posted, i would not even wait for the end of the sermon, but would walk out during it. There are no doubt many other things of a more minor nature that I would be willing to sit through even though I disagreed.

Ewww... Randy... Next time could you please post something a little less stomach churning... Like maybe a scratch and sniff pic of a rotting corpse with a dog licking maggots from it... TIA

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I have a couple of very sincere questions for you Hoovie as I am contemplating this very thing as how I will handle a return to church if/when my husband ever insists or I feel compelled for other reasons...

1. How do you reconcile this with your conscience? Do you not feel any internal guilt over the appearance of tacitly agreeing with thing you do not genuinely believe?

2. How do you teach your children that it is OK to ignore much of what they hear preached in church while absorbing the important parts... especially in churches where part of what is preached has to do with it being a sin to speak against of the 'man of God'?

Thanks in advance.

First you must consider that I was somewhat overstating... I don't Amen that which I disagree with. Randy's video is off the charts.

1. Conscience: It is my conscience that demands I not receive things at face value. Some are comfortable in quickly dishing out condemnation to "other Christians" for their view of Scripture, while wholeheartedly embracing all kinds of stuff from within the camp without evaluation. My conscience will not allow that. I can reject as I need to without judging motives.

2. The sooner the children understand that all churches have some error the better. We teach them to love the brethren, and especially respect ministers of the gospel. But any notion that any man is beyond question or teaches infallibly is dispelled. We teach them that good people - even in church - often disagree. Only one was perfect, and only the Scriptures infallible.

Church should not be THE primary source of spiritual instruction - that is reserved for the Christian parents.

[Razlin]

I have to agree with you! 100%

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

First you must consider that I was somewhat overstating... I don't Amen that which I disagree with. Randy's video is off the charts.

1. Conscience: It is my conscience that demands I not receive things at face value. Some are comfortable in quickly dishing out condemnation to "other Christians" for their view of Scripture, while wholeheartedly embracing all kinds of stuff from within the camp without evaluation. My conscience will not allow that. I can reject as I need to without judging motives.

2. The sooner the children understand that all churches have some error the better. We teach them to love the brethren, and especially respect ministers of the gospel. But any notion that any man is beyond question or teaches infallibly is dispelled. We teach them that good people - even in church - often disagree. Only one was perfect, and only the Scriptures infallible.

Church should not be THE primary source of spiritual instruction - that is reserved for the Christian parents.

Thanks for taking the time Hoovie. I like it a lot in theory, I had a lot more trouble instituting it in practice. I'm not sure I'd be ready to have another go at it but maybe someday.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Thanks for taking the time Hoovie. I like it a lot in theory, I had a lot more trouble instituting it in practice. I'm not sure I'd be ready to have another go at it but maybe someday.

It helps that we attend a moderate, growing church with good men and women in leadership!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Prax,
it's imperative as a member of the modern day churches, that one develop the art of selective hearing - rejecting the salmonella and other festering poisons and carefully recieve the rest for later digestion. I personally practice this, and like water of a ducks back have sat nodding politely through entire sermons that I had no intention of receiving as gospel. I practice it at all times and Mother's Day or Father's Day is no different.

So you go to sleep for the entire "service"? Then why go at all?