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Old 12-10-2013, 05:30 PM
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Or even the local Baptist or Trinitarian Pentecostal church. As some think on here they are already deceived.
Exactly. The hypocrisy is so obvious.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:32 PM
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Yes. Yes I would. IN FACT it it was an Apostolic infiltrating a group of Athiests, pretending to be one of them, then "finding Christ" for the express purpose of spreading the gospel, I would be OUTRAGED.

you do not use a lie to win people to God. So you are wrong. we are not happy to see people fooled.
Of course in THAT situation you would be outraged. But what about just hanging out with the Free Masons and acting as if you agree in order to learn about it and then leaving.

This is what just finished happening with the Pentecostals, and not even for very long.

Get a grip man.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:34 PM
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oh, that changes things. Don't know how i missed that, duh. My apologies Renee.
No it doesn't because all of her information is wrong.

Not an atheist.
Didn't backslide, just stopped showing up.

These folks have way too many facts wrong to present an honest portrayal of what the project was because they get all their info from that lady's dumb articles which don't get the facts right either.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:35 PM
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Type face was enough to know you are a self proclaimed wolf in sheeps clothing. That you found the whole thing as a form of entertainment
The title was obviously satire since although somewhat prankish there expressly was no goal to destroy anything.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:37 PM
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What about the part where you encouraged others to do it, even "cussing" in tongues for pure fun...then after having made friends and convinced them all you were a brother in Christ, you apostatize to see their shock?
That's encouraging others to do the project. The prankish part is merely to get through the boring services.

You get the apostasy thing totally wrong. The only reason to have an apostasy is if you've been there so long you need a legitimate excuse to get out. In my case I left early so no need for apostasy.

Nothing was ever said about shock value.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:39 PM
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I would, personally. I find the whole thing to be rude to others. I believe this is the result of a narcissistic generation that can do these sort of things to other people and not have a problem with it.
No one was hurt so your just huffin' and puffin' away at nothing.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:41 PM
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I find the whole thing to be uncivilized and rude. It was clear from his postings that the intent was less than mere observation for scientific reasons

It was some sort of game to him. He encouraged others to go to Pentecostal churches, fake tongues and even have FUN doing it by cussing in tongues
I already said the main purpose was observation and learning.
The small bit of prankishness is just personal entertainment to make a point to those reading.

Pentecostals can't tell the difference between "real" and "fake" tongues even if curse words are inserted throughout.

But the main thing was the observation.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:50 PM
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Well, anthropologists do this sort of thing all the time. When they enter another culture or even a sub-culture for the purpose of observation they don't spend their time arguing, they just integrate. Like it or not it is what it is and no one gets hurt.

And the speaking in tongues with curse words mixed in was just to make a point to people like you that there is no difference between real and fake tongues since Pentecostals themselves can't tell the difference.

Furthermore to clarify misconceptions, I do not self-identify as an atheist. Since I have no where discussed my opinion on the matter your assumption that I am one is unfounded.

I just don't believe the Bible is the word of a god, and I don't find that a god has revealed anything perfectly through any religion so far. Any of those views could be reversed in light of evidence and other than that what's true is up for grabs.

Again, that you are all offended is irrational. The depiction of what the project was was misrepresented by the people who wrote about it to blow it up.

I hope this thread dies soon so I can stop participating in this forum. When you guys realize that everything is fine, no seeds of doubt have been sown to members of the church the project was being done at, and the articles written by people about the project didn't accurately represent it, then I hope you have a good life.

Keep responding on this thread and I'll keep attempting to divest you of your misinformation.
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Old 12-10-2013, 06:21 PM
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Exactly. The hypocrisy is so obvious.
ROFL...your the one that was talking about sneaking into a Pentecostal church, pretending to be Pentecostal and cussing in tongues "For fun" and now you want to try to turn the tables and make it about us?

First of all several of us have expressed disagreement with you doing it to ANYONE.

Second of all, WE would not do that. Whether we had less of a problem with you doing it to a different group or not, the fact remains we would not pretend to be baptist for several months just to play games
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Of course in THAT situation you would be outraged. But what about just hanging out with the Free Masons and acting as if you agree in order to learn about it and then leaving.

This is what just finished happening with the Pentecostals, and not even for very long.

Get a grip man.
Keep reading. We already addressed that
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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