Everyone needs to read this now!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by livefortruth

No it doesn't because all of her information is wrong.

Not an atheist.
Didn't backslide, just stopped showing up.

These folks have way too many facts wrong to present an honest portrayal of what the project was because they get all their info from that lady's dumb articles which don't get the facts right either.

What are you? If not Atheist?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by livefortruth

The title was obviously satire since although somewhat prankish there expressly was no goal to destroy anything.

Like I already said, it goes beyond the title. You just ignored the fact that I referred to you encouring others to do it for FUN and to CUSS in tongues for FUN.

That's like saying someone shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theater was just a prank and no intention on harm...that person is deluded himself. Sorry

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by livefortruth

That's encouraging others to do the project. The prankish part is merely to get through the boring services.

You get the apostasy thing totally wrong. The only reason to have an apostasy is if you've been there so long you need a legitimate excuse to get out. In my case I left early so no need for apostasy.

Nothing was ever said about shock value.

You're not convincing me. You made it clear it was to "see their reaction".

I read your blog, not that woman's article

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by livefortruth

No one was hurt so your just huffin' and puffin' away at nothing.

How do you know? Do you understand what kind of "hurt" we are talking about?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by livefortruth

I already said the main purpose was observation and learning.
The small bit of prankishness is just personal entertainment to make a point to those reading.

Pentecostals can't tell the difference between "real" and "fake" tongues even if curse words are inserted throughout.

But the main thing was the observation.

To Observe their reaction when you go into Apostasy.

The more you protest the more that proverb is true...me thinks thou protesteth too much

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by livefortruth

Well, anthropologists do this sort of thing all the time. When they enter another culture or even a sub-culture for the purpose of observation they don't spend their time arguing, they just integrate. Like it or not it is what it is and no one gets hurt.

And the speaking in tongues with curse words mixed in was just to make a point to people like you that there is no difference between real and fake tongues since Pentecostals themselves can't tell the difference.

Furthermore to clarify misconceptions, I do not self-identify as an atheist. Since I have no where discussed my opinion on the matter your assumption that I am one is unfounded.

I just don't believe the Bible is the word of a god, and I don't find that a god has revealed anything perfectly through any religion so far. Any of those views could be reversed in light of evidence and other than that what's true is up for grabs.

Again, that you are all offended is irrational. The depiction of what the project was was misrepresented by the people who wrote about it to blow it up.

I hope this thread dies soon so I can stop participating in this forum. When you guys realize that everything is fine, no seeds of doubt have been sown to members of the church the project was being done at, and the articles written by people about the project didn't accurately represent it, then I hope you have a good life.

Keep responding on this thread and I'll keep attempting to divest you of your misinformation.

ROFL..I was waiting for this comparison.

Actually Anthropologists don't go in disguise pretending to be a native. They go in admitting they are not part of the group to learn about the group. To not offend they often observe cultural norms, but they do NOT go in with the intent on deceiving and they would not "have fun" at some native's expense

[Praxeas]

One of your goals

3) To develop close relationships with members of the congregation and see how they react in about a year or so when our planned apostasy takes place.

You also refer to this as ESPIONAGE.

Throughout this article and others you repetitively refer to Pentecostals and Christians in general with belligerent and pejorative language, yet you feign here sincerity?

"so what’s REALLY fun and what will REALLY take the edge of is to insert curse words and aberrant phrases into my tongues speech to see if anyone around me will noticeably notice. Of course, I try not to laugh, but if I do I just play it off as if I’m laughing in the Spirit."


"And definitely, if your interested in visiting a classical Pentecostal, Oneness Pentecostal, Charismatic, Third Wave, or Bapticostal church as someone who doesn’t really believe in the whole spiritual gibberish thing this is a great thing to do."


"And most of all if you do this- have fun!"

To most sane people, this is called MOCKERY.

[renee819]

Livefortruth wrote

And the speaking in tongues with curse words mixed in was just to make a point to people like you that there is no difference between real and fake tongues since Pentecostals themselves can't tell the difference

This needs to be cleared up,

Since you don't believe the Bible, no use to pointing you to a scripture. But for others that might not understand this. Many times in a service, there is no one there with the “gift of interpretation” Therefore those without that 'gift' would not know, exactly. But I have discerned a few times, that the speaker was not getting his message from God. And I have seen a few called out on it. But if the Pastor doesn't say something, because he is unsure, the people won't either.

I imagine, there were a few that had their doubts, because there is a different feeling that comes over a service. And they were kind enough to wait and see.

[livefortruth]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

ROFL...your the one that was talking about sneaking into a Pentecostal church, pretending to be Pentecostal and cussing in tongues "For fun" and now you want to try to turn the tables and make it about us?

First of all several of us have expressed disagreement with you doing it to ANYONE.

Second of all, WE would not do that. Whether we had less of a problem with you doing it to a different group or not, the fact remains we would not pretend to be baptist for several months just to play games

There's no hypocrisy there since I'm not contradicting any of my values. Even if you would only have less of a problem with it being done in another group that is inconsistent. Although I'm sure some here could think of situations where they would find a similar scenario to be just fine.

[livefortruth]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

What are you? If not Atheist?

A theist.