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09-26-2015, 07:52 PM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by CC1
Deacon,
I am going to be in Memphis on a short business trip sometime in the next three weeks and I am hoping to meet you to rebuke you and straighten you out! I really enjoyed the last time a year or two ago (I lose track of time).
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You BETTER look me up!
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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09-26-2015, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Originalist
If that mutual friend called to warn you someone was on their way to kill you, would that just be hearsay. How is it hearsay when the potential killer has made his plans known to the one who warned you?
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09-26-2015, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Esaias
1. I seriously doubt I would be 'blind sided' by the 'old friend'. And if he did try to straighten me out, so called, I'd simply discuss with him the issues and we'd have a bible study and prayer together.
2. I doubt I'd be on the intardnets talking about him behind his back.
3. I would also have refused to just BELIEVE what was told me about the 'old friend'. I would instead hold judgment in reserve. The other guy may have misunderstood what the 'old friend' said. You know, 'charity hopeth all things' and those pesky old testament laws against taking up a reproafh against your neighbor or listening to tale-bearers. So I would instead decide that the one friend probably misunderstood what the 'old friend' was saying or doing, and would meet the old friend and keep an open mind and open heart.
IF the old friend was trying to straighten me out, I would cherish the fact I had a friend who was serious enough about God to at least be zealous for God and concerned about my spiritual well being. Who needs friends who could care less if you go to hell?
And if was trying to straighten me out on 'house church', either I'd convert him to the truth, or we'd at the least part amicably with our respective views in tact. And if he was gonna just be mean and nasty about it, then I would pray for him and move on with my life.
I hope I would NOT be on AFF posting about what I THOUGHT his motives were in the absence of anything but hearsay.
Hearsay is hearsay, regardless of who says it...
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09-26-2015, 10:18 AM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
It's always interesting to study a group dynamic.
Deacon has been a part of AFF since its inception. He posted an interesting commentary about his fears, failures, relationships and journey.
Predictably, the responses fall under two categories: "He's no longer one of us so he's a lying gossip with an ax to grind" or "Gee, interesting story. Happy to hear you're doing well, Deacon."
Warnings from best friends don't happen frequently, in my experience. Only a fool ignores them.
Glad you're happy and well, Deacon.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
Last edited by Charnock; 09-26-2015 at 10:27 AM.
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09-26-2015, 07:58 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by Charnock
It's always interesting to study a group dynamic.
Deacon has been a part of AFF since its inception. He posted an interesting commentary about his fears, failures, relationships and journey.
Predictably, the responses fall under two categories: "He's no longer one of us so he's a lying gossip with an ax to grind" or "Gee, interesting story. Happy to hear you're doing well, Deacon."
Warnings from best friends don't happen frequently, in my experience. Only a fool ignores them.
Glad you're happy and well, Deacon.
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Thanks for assuming the best in me C.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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09-26-2015, 11:43 AM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
Whatever the original intent for the meeting with your friend, DB, I'm glad that you were able to part on good terms. 
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09-26-2015, 06:42 PM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
Deacon, sadly some of our dearest friends will not understand when we follow the path to which we feel that God has directed us-especially if it differs from there's. Don't be discouraged, I am sure your friend MEANT well, even if he flubbed on attitude and delivery. Your long time friend did you a service by letting you be prepared for your visit. As far as the critics go, I guess I would say to them -Your walk is just that YOURS.... and mine is my own. I appreciate transparency in people but your friend would have been better off-if he felt burdened to pray-to pray for you alone, instead of trying to telegraph a message to the saints when he did his walk through. What wisdom in the old lyrics "tell it to Jesus alone".
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09-26-2015, 08:00 PM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by PastorStarcher
Deacon, sadly some of our dearest friends will not understand when we follow the path to which we feel that God has directed us-especially if it differs from there's. Don't be discouraged, I am sure your friend MEANT well, even if he flubbed on attitude and delivery. Your long time friend did you a service by letting you be prepared for your visit. As far as the critics go, I guess I would say to them -Your walk is just that YOURS.... and mine is my own. I appreciate transparency in people but your friend would have been better off-if he felt burdened to pray-to pray for you alone, instead of trying to telegraph a message to the saints when he did his walk through. What wisdom in the old lyrics "tell it to Jesus alone".
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Pastor S---truer words have never been spoken.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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09-26-2015, 08:07 PM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
I just can't fathom not having any relationship with someone for nearly 30 years and then decide to just drop in to rebuke them---and making leaps in logic based on a 30 minute phone call.
My best friend who is like a brother to me would not steer me wrong. I would trust him to raise my children if I were to die. I guess because I'm not a conservative or consider myself a OP, the conservatives on here want to jump on the judgment band wagon and assume the guy was following God's lead and I am the prodigal needing the rebuke.
Sorry guys but you all are waaaay off on your assessment.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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09-26-2015, 08:11 PM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
I just can't fathom not having any relationship with someone for nearly 30 years and then decide to just drop in to rebuke them---and making leaps in logic based on a 30 minute phone call.
My best friend who is like a brother to me would not steer me wrong. I would trust him to raise my children if I were to die. I guess because I'm not a conservative or consider myself a OP, the conservatives on here want to jump on the judgment band wagon and assume the guy was following God's lead and I am the prodigal needing the rebuke.
Sorry guys but you all are waaaay off on your assessment.
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The homers always want to defend the indefensible and try to flip things around.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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