Could an AOG saint theoretically be saved? - Page 9

#1 06-15-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

NO it's not. Talk about rude one could take lessons from you.

I would takes hours to go through every standard and teach on them and you know that.

God back and look at all the thread. Scripture has been given over and over yet you still say it's not there.

Try using the bible instead of what you think. That would be a good start. I don't really expect you to be able to truly answer though.

Rico · #2 06-15-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

NO it's not. Talk about rude one could take lessons from you.

I would takes hours to go through every standard and teach on them and you know that.

God back and look at all the thread. Scripture has been given over and over yet you still say it's not there.

That's because the scriptures that typically get used are being taken completely out of context and twisted to fit the doctrine.

#3 06-15-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

That's because the scriptures that typically get used are being taken completely out of context and twisted to fit the doctrine.

Amen Pastor Rico!!!! Preach It!!!!

Rico · #4 06-15-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

Standards have been proven here over and over. Elder Epley and other have done a wonderful job, but yet some still refuse to see.

Dress standards have never been proven. That is why they are a hot topic. That's why you will rarely see any thread arguing against Jesus Name Baptism, because the scriptures bear it out. The same can not be said for old style dress standards.

BoredOutOfMyMind · #5 06-15-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

Dress standards have never been proven. That is why they are a hot topic. That's why you will rarely see any thread arguing against Jesus Name Baptism, because the scriptures bear it out. The same can not be said for old style dress standards.

Over 100 years of teaching and preaching was all false, then?

If I could not trust my Pastor for my Devotions to God, I could not entrust him for my salvation in anyway..... if he is errant in one area, he may be in others. I trust him and I know what I feel in my heart. There is no problem in my mind to have these items declared, dissected, or discussed.

Your views and stance show you seem to have many doubts.

I hope in the day of Judgement, you are found faithful in many things.

Rico · #6 06-15-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Over 100 years of teaching and preaching was all false, then?

If I could not trust my Pastor for my Devotions to God, I could not entrust him for my salvation in anyway..... if he is errant in one area, he may be in others. I trust him and I know what I feel in my heart. There is no problem in my mind to have these items declared, dissected, or discussed.

Your views and stance show you seem to have many doubts.

I hope in the day of Judgement, you are found faithful in many things.

Brother, I believe the premise that someone's holiness can be judged by the clothes they are wearing to be very flawed. I believe the premise that a pastor has the right to dictate to people what they should or should not be wearing is also very flawed and an abuse of power. I do, however, believe in personal conviction and have no problem with people that keep dress standards because of personal convictions.

As for my doubts, it is in my nature to doubt anyone that wants me to follow them. Some people are willing to go along until it's proven the person they are following isn't worthy of being followed. I am of the mindset that you must first prove worthy of being followed before I start in your direction.

As for being faithful, I have never lost my faith in God. He never has, nor will He ever be, the issue. The issue is man.