Covid and the Ministry

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

OK, I'm a problem solving type of guy. When I'm in a meeting, I don't want to keep talking about the problem over and over. It doesn't get any better, because we have already rehashed it. So, in a meeting, what I try to get everyone to focus on is the solution. Now, what's the solution? When will COVID stop being a threat to mankind? Since we have been going back and forth ( my family and I still haven't got it) over this virus, plague, or pox blight, and no one brings up the solution. Where do we go from here? What do we do? Most everyone I meet or know are split down the middle. Yet, most of the people I have spoke with haven't ever gotten the disease, but always seem to know either someone who did, or died from it. I don't want to talk, and rehash who got it, or argue if they really had it, or doubt if people really died from it. My question is when do the masks come off? When will we be able to walk into a store not wearing one. Taking a trip across the United States, you can find some places where there is no mask wearing at all. But I live in a major city, a liberal one at that filled with JOE BIDEN for president banners, bumper stickers, and signs on the front lawn. When will it all be over? No masks no covid, no more deaths? Still biology 101 still begs the question, "don't virus constantly change?" then what do we do with the next covid? Covid 20, or COVID 21?

I haven't worn a muzzle yet. I blow right by the WalMart greeters, I just smile and wave and go about my business. Same at the Dollar stores, gas stations, etc. I just flat ignore the whole thing. If anyone wants to give me grief I just don't do business there anymore. Where I live about 50% of the people wear muzzles. I suspect most of those who wear them only do so because they want to avoid "confrontation".

But then again I live out in the boondocks.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I haven't worn a muzzle yet. I blow right by the WalMart greeters, I just smile and wave and go about my business. Same at the Dollar stores, gas stations, etc. I just flat ignore the whole thing. If anyone wants to give me grief I just don't do business there anymore. Where I live about 50% of the people wear muzzles. I suspect most of those who wear them only do so because they want to avoid "confrontation".

But then again I live out in the boondocks.

I wear muzzle, because there is hardly anywhere in Broward, or Dade county were you can not wear one. I live in the heart of Kamalaland, and Corn Pop.
No smiling and waving to enter Walmart, Home Depot, or the Publix. Resistance is futile, we must comply. I must breath 12% oxygen behind the muzzle. Every gym is strictly monitored in Broward and Dade to make sure everyone is wearing a mask when they lift and train. Yet, myself and fellow Eloi would like to know when we can remove our masks? When will the shelter at home order be lifted? When will this death virus be gone? This is what we want to know. I can’t breath.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

OK, I'm a problem solving type of guy. When I'm in a meeting, I don't want to keep talking about the problem over and over. It doesn't get any better, because we have already rehashed it. So, in a meeting, what I try to get everyone to focus on is the solution. Now, what's the solution? When will COVID stop being a threat to mankind? Since we have been going back and forth ( my family and I still haven't got it) over this virus, plague, or pox blight, and no one brings up the solution. Where do we go from here? What do we do? Most everyone I meet or know are split down the middle. Yet, most of the people I have spoke with haven't ever gotten the disease, but always seem to know either someone who did, or died from it. I don't want to talk, and rehash who got it, or argue if they really had it, or doubt if people really died from it. My question is when do the masks come off? When will we be able to walk into a store not wearing one. Taking a trip across the United States, you can find some places where there is no mask wearing at all. But I live in a major city, a liberal one at that filled with JOE BIDEN for president banners, bumper stickers, and signs on the front lawn. When will it all be over? No masks no covid, no more deaths? Still biology 101 still begs the question, "don't virus constantly change?" then what do we do with the next covid? Covid 20, or COVID 21?

Praise the Lord you and your family are well!

As to your questions, I wish I had the answers... I don't know everything, I just talk like I do. lol

I hope, honest to goodness, I truly hope the skeptics are right and this ends with the election, but I doubt it. I doubt it because this virus is not limited to the USA. But again, I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, so I just don't know.

But you are absolutely right that it has been discussed/argued to the point of exhaustion! The distraction this is causing to the Body is unreal... saints arguing on FB, posting hateful comments... I'm not talking about discussion as we see here, but flat-out hate filled posts. If I was looking for a church home it sure wouldn't be where there is such mean spirited chatter.

Anyway, glad y'all are safe and sound...

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Barb

Praise the Lord you and your family are well!

As to your questions, I wish I had the answers... I don't know everything, I just talk like I do. lol

I hope, honest to goodness, I truly hope the skeptics are right and this ends with the election, but I doubt it. I doubt it because this virus is not limited to the USA. But again, I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, so I just don't know.

But you are absolutely right that it has been discussed/argued to the point of exhaustion! The distraction this is causing to the Body is unreal... saints arguing on FB, posting hateful comments... I'm not talking about discussion as we see here, but flat-out hate filled posts. If I was looking for a church home it sure wouldn't be where there is such mean spirited chatter.

Anyway, glad y'all are safe and sound...

My dearest Sister Barb.

Thank you for your kind well wishes to my family and I.

But, my post was focused on an answer, or answers. I've asked many people the same thing I posted here. I have received the same answer. "I wish I had the answers." Which is followed by more of the arguments. You see, we can no longer hold this discussion because there is no light at the end of the tunnel. We have never quarantine the healthy in this country. During the rise of AIDS in this counrty there was panic and hysteria. Yet, since Homosexuals as becoming the new guarded community the AIDS (extremely contagious through body fluids like sneezing) no one was told to wear a mask. I remember when AIDS made its appearance in New York, we were told that you could get it if someone who had it as much as spit on you.

But we got through all this, and guess what? We are still here. People died from AIDS, people in many families, whether relatives or friends. Yet, we got all through this. But, we aren't getting answers, no one even knows when the covid black cloud will dissipate. Again, we know the arguments, we have fought it out among ourselves. But what is the solution? When will it be here?

[Esaias]

Wife and I walked into Wally Whirled today. Greeter said "Masks are required" and I smiled and said "Thank you" as went in. With no muzzles. Right behind us a local police officer came in. He had no muzzle. She told him "Masks are required" but he didn't even respond and went in anyway.

Saw a store employee stocking shelves - no muzzle.

About 20% of the shoppers had no muzzles at all.

Many many muzzle wearers had their noses exposed. Some wore the mask under their chin only. Nobody was wearing anything that would actually prevent any supposed airborne viral contagion (all these masks are ineffective).

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Wife and I walked into Wally Whirled today. Greeter said "Masks are required" and I smiled and said "Thank you" as went in. With no muzzles. Right behind us a local police officer came in. He had no muzzle. She told him "Masks are required" but he didn't even respond and went in anyway.

Saw a store employee stocking shelves - no muzzle.

About 20% of the shoppers had no muzzles at all.

Many many muzzle wearers had their noses exposed. Some wore the mask under their chin only. Nobody was wearing anything that would actually prevent any supposed airborne viral contagion (all these masks are ineffective).

Wonder if they paper rock scissors to decide whose turn it is to be the town crier?

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Esaias

What would happen if everybody at the gym just refused to wear one?

A local pool/billiards hall tried that, basically telling everyone that masks were optional and that he wouldn't question anyone who said they couldn't wear a mask. Rather than going after the people, they went after the business. The HHS put up "business closed" signs, they tore the signs down and stayed open anyway.

They eventually capitulated, but there is a class-action lawsuit in the works against the city and the mayor.

Originally Posted by Esaias

Nobody was wearing anything that would actually prevent any supposed airborne viral contagion (all these masks are ineffective).

The masks that most people wear (the same thing I'm forced to put on when dealing with customers) don't prevent the spread of viruses anyway. They're to prevent bacterial infections in hospitals, which is the deadliest threat against people who are sick. Viral infections - such as the current "pandemic" - are not stopped by a piece of cloth. In fact, the CDC recently determined that they did little to nothing to stop the spread, and in some cases actually increased the spread (e.g. the bandanna type that you pull up over your chin).

[Monterrey]

Lol

[diakonos]

Prayers for Stan Cook. He is hospitalized with covid related complications. No other details provided.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Prayers for Stan Cook. He is hospitalized with covid related complications. No other details provided.

Prayers for my SIL as well... Covid and double pneumonia...