What Is the Abomination That Brings Desolation?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

No, I'm not "back to that".

See, you were sinlessly perfect until you just misrepresented what I said, i.e., "lied".

No, I asked a question.

Chris this forum isn't good for you.

Especially, when certain subjects drive you mad.

Oh, that reminds me, please hurry along and find me all the scriptures concerning sinful unhealthy eating.

[JamesGlen]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

No, I asked a question.

Chris this forum isn't good for you.

Especially, when certain subjects drive you mad.

Oh, that reminds me, please hurry along and find me all the scriptures concerning sinful unhealthy eating.

Would it be safe to assume you smoke a few sinfully unhealthy camels every day after eating sinfully unhealthy, or do you have scripture that steers you away from that?

[Armapeet.Singh]

When we looking at Dan 12, we see that strongs say desolation is -

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שׁמם
shâmêm
shaw-mame'
A primitive root; to stun (or intransitively grow numb), that is, devastate or (figuratively) stupefy (both usually in a passive sense): - make amazed, be astonied, (be an) astonish (-ment), (be, bring into, unto, lay, lie, make) desolate (-ion, places), be destitute, destroy (self), (lay, lie, make) waste, wonder.

So it appear that the desolation can be to be made wasted, devastated, desolate...

Am I wrong in this? Sos how is Mr Trump the fulfillment of this. Please explain.

[james34]

The temple of God is the blood bought temple of a born again Saint. There is not a temple cleansed by animal blood that will ever be as desirable to the Most High , as one purchased by his own blood. This is the reason our bodies must be offered as a living sacrifice unto God. The Most High dwelleth not in temples made by hands anymore.
Could it be that the Abomination of desolation is a false gospel or the result of a false gospel, that leaves the individual in an unrepentant state or "desolate" if you will. When the hearer embraces any gospel that is void of repentance , that temple is left desolate. This is where most churches are at in this late hour.

[james34]

I believe the Love of God is the answer to the fallen human condition as a result of sin. But most who preach Love/Agape are perfectly happy to leave it disconnected from any sanctification.
Just today I was considering a scripture that would speak against this false Agape.

Love not the world , neither the things that are in the world , if any man love the world , the Love of The Father AINT/ is not in him.
He has no Agape, regardless of how kind and gentle he may seem at church , or how sweetly he affirms every modern victim group.
If he isn't clearly embracing a separated from the world walk with God, he is therefore void of the Love of God.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by james34

The temple of God is the blood bought temple of a born again Saint. There is not a temple cleansed by animal blood that will ever be as desirable to the Most High , as one purchased by his own blood. This is the reason our bodies must be offered as a living sacrifice unto God. The Most High dwelleth not in temples made by hands anymore.
Could it be that the Abomination of desolation is a false gospel or the result of a false gospel, that leaves the individual in an unrepentant state or "desolate" if you will. When the hearer embraces any gospel that is void of repentance , that temple is left desolate. This is where most churches are at in this late hour.

The Abomination of Desolation has happened twice. First under Antiochus Epiphanies IV and again with Titus in 70 AD.

Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 11:31 describe the Abomination of Desolation:

- And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator. (Daniel 9:27, ESV)
- Forces from him shall appear and profane the temple and fortress, and shall take away the regular burnt offering. And they shall set up the abomination that makes desolate. (Daniel 11:31, ESV)

Antiochus Epiphanes IV:
Historical records confirm that Antiochus Epiphanes IV, the king of the Seleucid Empire, desecrated the Temple in Jerusalem in 167 BCE:

* 1 Maccabees 1:54-59 describes the desecration of the Temple and the erection of a statue of Zeus Olympios.
* 2 Maccabees 6:1-5 also describes the desecration and the introduction of pagan rituals.

Jesus references Daniel's prophecy in Matthew 24:15-16:
- So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. (Matthew 24:15-16, ESV)

Titus and the Destruction of the Temple in 70 AD.
Historical records confirm that Titus, the Roman general, destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD:

- The Jewish historian Josephus Flavius describes the destruction of the Temple in his work "The Wars of the Jews" (Book 6, Chapter 4).
- The Roman historian Tacitus also describes the destruction of the Temple in his work "Histories" (Book 5, Chapter 9).

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by james34

I believe the Love of God is the answer to the fallen human condition as a result of sin. But most who preach Love/Agape are perfectly happy to leave it disconnected from any sanctification.
Just today I was considering a scripture that would speak against this false Agape.

Love not the world , neither the things that are in the world , if any man love the world , the Love of The Father AINT/ is not in him.
He has no Agape, regardless of how kind and gentle he may seem at church , or how sweetly he affirms every modern victim group.
If he isn't clearly embracing a separated from the world walk with God, he is therefore void of the Love of God.

Repentance is to forsake sin for sin is the transgression of the law. We show our love for God and others by keeping His Commandments.

Repentance and Keeping God's Commandments
* 1 John 3:4: Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.(ESV)
* John 14:15: If you love me, you will keep my commandments. (ESV)
*John 14:21: Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him. (ESV)

Loving God and Loving People through Keeping God's Commandments
* Matthew 22:37-40: And he said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.' (ESV)
*John 15:10: If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love. (ESV)
*1 John 5:2-3: By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome. (ESV)
* Deuteronomy 6:5: You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. (ESV)
*Leviticus 19:18: You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord. (ESV)

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by james34

The temple of God is the blood bought temple of a born again Saint. There is not a temple cleansed by animal blood that will ever be as desirable to the Most High , as one purchased by his own blood. This is the reason our bodies must be offered as a living sacrifice unto God. The Most High dwelleth not in temples made by hands anymore.
Could it be that the Abomination of desolation is a false gospel or the result of a false gospel, that leaves the individual in an unrepentant state or "desolate" if you will. When the hearer embraces any gospel that is void of repentance , that temple is left desolate. This is where most churches are at in this late hour.

How does this correlate with Daniel?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by james34

I believe the Love of God is the answer to the fallen human condition as a result of sin. But most who preach Love/Agape are perfectly happy to leave it disconnected from any sanctification.
Just today I was considering a scripture that would speak against this false Agape.

Love not the world , neither the things that are in the world , if any man love the world , the Love of The Father AINT/ is not in him.
He has no Agape, regardless of how kind and gentle he may seem at church , or how sweetly he affirms every modern victim group.
If he isn't clearly embracing a separated from the world walk with God, he is therefore void of the Love of God.

Is this person blaspheming the Holy Ghost?

How does a person affirm a modern victim group? What is a modern victim group? Is it Christians? Rabbinical Judaism?

[james34]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Is this person blaspheming the Holy Ghost?

How does a person affirm a modern victim group? What is a modern victim group? Is it Christians? Rabbinical Judaism?

The feminist movement, lgbtq, blm, are a few exams of victim groups.
If you want to affirm them you can join the movements by speaking out against the things they speak out against. You could use your social media platform as a place to let your voice be heard. If you want to support the blm movement I would recommend Matt Walshs movie "Am I Rascist". That ought to get you started.