Concerning Tulsa, could sombody please answer this

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by TrmptPraise

OK, Dan.


Seriously, there shouldn't be one. You can only serve one master

True and the UPC is a hard taskmaster isn't she

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by NLYP

I still wish someone would explain something to me.....
"We are not requiring anybody to leave the UPC to be a part of the WWPF"

oooook.

So....I am UPC....and I agree that if hold license that I will faithfully support the UPC with prayer and finances.

So.....If I am upc AND wwpf.....where does my financial alliegence lie?

They say they are not an org...YET..they have woman ministry, foreign ministry, home missions, youth ministry...etc....

They WILL want their members to support their works.

So whats a "Dual" membership man to do???

I say this...ITS a ploy to get them in the door.

I just have serious problems with the "dual" thing.....

Get in or Get out....

I do know the general Board is getting ready to meet and address this....
We shall see.......
Dont get me wrong....I want this Apostolic message to reach the world...BUT...there is an old saying...."fish or cut bait".

God bless the WWPF...but not at the expense of devisiveness towards the fellowship I am a part of and love.

I say that with no malicious intent...

Didn't your hero Anthony M say at BOTT this last year that the TV issue wasn't a holiness issue but an evangelism issue? Why would you oppose another layer of potential evangelism like the WPF is offering. More potential funds going to various missions and ministries that might not be covered by the umbrella of the UPC. More souls reached by the gospel that the UPC is not reaching.

Originally Posted by NLYP

Dont get me wrong....I want this Apostolic message to reach the world...BUT...there is an old saying...."fish or cut bait".

Either you want this apostolic message to reach the world or you don't. No buts at all.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by NLYP

I still wish someone would explain something to me.....
"We are not requiring anybody to leave the UPC to be a part of the WWPF"

oooook.

So....I am UPC....and I agree that if hold license that I will faithfully support the UPC with prayer and finances.

So.....If I am upc AND wwpf.....where does my financial alliegence lie?

They say they are not an org...YET..they have woman ministry, foreign ministry, home missions, youth ministry...etc....

They WILL want their members to support their works.

So whats a "Dual" membership man to do???

I say this...ITS a ploy to get them in the door.

I just have serious problems with the "dual" thing.....

Get in or Get out....

I do know the general Board is getting ready to meet and address this....
We shall see.......
Dont get me wrong....I want this Apostolic message to reach the world...BUT...there is an old saying...."fish or cut bait".

God bless the WWPF...but not at the expense of devisiveness towards the fellowship I am a part of and love.

I say that with no malicious intent...

Of course the WPF wants you to send money along to them. Even to the point of using part of your tithing to pay membership.

That is a first.

They want to make sure you do not have any extra out of pocket.

Just do not give it the other God when you tithe give it to the WPF God.

Becasue we live more like the real God.

God will only be winking our way.....

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Of course the WPF wants you to send money along to them. Even to the point of using part of your tithing to pay membership.

That is a first.

They want to make sure you do not have any extra out of pocket.

Just do not give it the other God when you tithe give it to the WPF God.

Becasue we live more like the real God.

God will only be winking our way.....

It's posts like this that remind me to pray for you, that God would heal your wounds from being kicked in the head by a horse.

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Of course the WPF wants you to send money along to them. Even to the point of using part of your tithing to pay membership.

That is a first.

They want to make sure you do not have any extra out of pocket.

Just do not give it the other God when you tithe give it to the WPF God.

Becasue we live more like the real God.

God will only be winking our way.....

Bro. Neckstadt. I enjoy many of your postings, got to disagree with you here though. The tithing thing is not a WPF created thing by any means. The UPCI has been doing this for many years. If you are a full-time minister in the UPCI in most districts you are required to pay tithes to the district.

As for the rest of your post on this subject I respect your attempt at sarcasm/satire lol.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by bishoph

Bro. Neckstadt. I enjoy many of your postings, got to disagree with you here though. The tithing thing is not a WPF created thing by any means. The UPCI has been doing this for many years. If you are a full-time minister in the UPCI in most districts you are required to pay tithes to the district.

As for the rest of your post on this subject I respect your attempt at sarcasm/satire lol.

I Tithe to my local church. I pay fees to District and National levels....

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by NLYP

I still wish someone would explain something to me.....
"We are not requiring anybody to leave the UPC to be a part of the WWPF"

oooook.

So....I am UPC....and I agree that if hold license that I will faithfully support the UPC with prayer and finances.

So.....If I am upc AND wwpf.....where does my financial alliegence lie?

They say they are not an org...YET..they have woman ministry, foreign ministry, home missions, youth ministry...etc....

They WILL want their members to support their works.

So whats a "Dual" membership man to do???

I say this...ITS a ploy to get them in the door.

I just have serious problems with the "dual" thing.....

Get in or Get out....

I do know the general Board is getting ready to meet and address this....
We shall see.......
Dont get me wrong....I want this Apostolic message to reach the world...BUT...there is an old saying...."fish or cut bait".

God bless the WWPF...but not at the expense of devisiveness towards the fellowship I am a part of and love.

I say that with no malicious intent...

As it has been stated, The AWCF is much the same as the WPF. They only offer a fellowship card. They have missions, youth ministries, and regional and national conferences. While I think the "cost" of the WPF is ridiculous for a "fellowship", I see no difference in the 2.

So should the UPCI also kick anyone that is part of the AWCF, as they (AWCF) ask for finances and offerings also for their agendas?

[Steve Epley]

Dan thanks for the call I appreciate it.

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Dan thanks for the call I appreciate it.

You are welcome my friend......