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Old 02-20-2008, 08:38 AM
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Re: QUESTION: DId only 72 or 225 join WPF???????

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I don't know if the question ever got answered on this thread, and I am not about to read through more than 20 pages to find out. Therefore, if my answer is redundant, so be it.

There were more than 200 who joined at the Tulsa meeting. They have had 1-2 more applications arriving every day.

It has been the M.O. of the officials of the UPC to downplay this at every turn. First, only 16 people got out. (I personally knew almost 30!) Now, only 72 have joined. Perhaps someone needs to take a refresher course in basic math.


KP,

Good to see you posting. Sounds like by your information tha they should be right at about 230+ members. Sounds to me like WWPF is trending toward a 300-500 membership which is about where it was predicted by many.

I could be wrong (as Elder Epley and my wife claim I have been many times before) but I think if there was going to be a mass exodus from the UPC to the WWPF it would have already happened enmasse.

Having said that there is no doubt that 300-500 members, if that is what it turns out to be, is a significant number and certainly enough for them to be successful.
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Old 02-20-2008, 05:13 PM
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Re: QUESTION: DId only 72 or 225 join WPF???????

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Respectfully, I have a question for Kansas Preacher:

Today you say this: "(I personally knew almost 30!)" and this: "Now, only 72 have joined." (referring to words of the UPC.)

My question: Can you document where the UPC is saying that today?
I was simply referring to what has been stated on this thread. It was said that this is the number coming from the officials.

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Speaking of "simple math", perhaps the difference in the numbers has to do with that the UPC is reporting the number that has withdrawn from the UPCI, NOT the number that has joined the WPF.

In case someone has forgotten, you do not have to withdraw from the UPC in order to join the WPF.

Ergo, the numbers may not match!
The "numbers" that are "not matching" have nothing to do with how many got out versus how many joined. The fact is, it WAS reported in numerous letters by officials that "only 16" had gotten out. I personally knew of around 30 at that time. This was BEFORE Tulsa, and BEFORE it was even POSSIBLE to join the WPF.

My point was simply that, if they can find a way to misconstrue the facts about how many got out, why should we accept at face value their assessment of how many joined?

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KP,

Good to see you posting. Sounds like by your information tha they should be right at about 230+ members. Sounds to me like WWPF is trending toward a 300-500 membership which is about where it was predicted by many.

I could be wrong (as Elder Epley and my wife claim I have been many times before) but I think if there was going to be a mass exodus from the UPC to the WWPF it would have already happened enmasse.

Having said that there is no doubt that 300-500 members, if that is what it turns out to be, is a significant number and certainly enough for them to be successful.
Thank you, CC1. I appreciate the fact that, although we disagree on much, I trust you to be honest in the way you deal with things. That means a LOT. Rather than being "agenda driven," you impress me as one who has no problem accepting facts that may not lead to the conclusions which you might prefer.

As for me posting, I honestly don't feel like I "fit" on AFF. That's not a slam, it's just an opinion. I keep my membership open because I feel the need to post from time to time in defense of my friends. Furthermore, on at least a couple of occasions, I myself have been the topic of discussion, and have had to post to "set the record straight." (Does anyone remember the thread that claimed that the "entire Kansas District was going to pull out?" I was District Superintendent at the time, and became quite the "party pooper" when I laid out the TRUTH.)

Thus, you probably won't be seeing a whole lot of me here. In fact, my OWN forum hasn't been seeing as much of me lately, and I DO feel like I fit there! I just haven't had the time to devote to forums and, when I do, I would prefer to discuss things rather than having to debate them OR feel like I or my friends are under attack. I think you understand.
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:28 PM
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Re: QUESTION: DId only 72 or 225 join WPF???????

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KP,

Good to see you posting. Sounds like by your information tha they should be right at about 230+ members. Sounds to me like WWPF is trending toward a 300-500 membership which is about where it was predicted by many.

I could be wrong (as Elder Epley and my wife claim I have been many times before) but I think if there was going to be a mass exodus from the UPC to the WWPF it would have already happened enmasse.

Having said that there is no doubt that 300-500 members, if that is what it turns out to be, is a significant number and certainly enough for them to be successful.


Hey CC1 are you gonna go to AMC this year to hear KP preach?
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Re: QUESTION: DId only 72 or 225 join WPF???????

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I don't know if the question ever got answered on this thread, and I am not about to read through more than 20 pages to find out. Therefore, if my answer is redundant, so be it.

There were more than 200 who joined at the Tulsa meeting. They have had 1-2 more applications arriving every day.

It has been the M.O. of the officials of the UPC to downplay this at every turn. First, only 16 people got out. (I personally knew almost 30!) Now, only 72 have joined. Perhaps someone needs to take a refresher course in basic math.

Are you saying the UPC is purposefully misleading the public?
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Old 02-20-2008, 01:09 PM
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Re: QUESTION: DId only 72 or 225 join WPF???????

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Are you saying the UPC is purposefully misleading the public?
I think he is saying


"It has been the M.O. of the officials of the UPC to downplay this at every turn."


but I could be wrong!
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Re: QUESTION: DId only 72 or 225 join WPF???????

The WPF was started by good God fearing men who are standing by their convictions and not going with the tide of worldliness .
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The WPF was started by good God fearing men who are standing by their convictions and not going with the tide of worldliness .
Are you still swimming with the tide??
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Re: QUESTION: DId only 72 or 225 join WPF???????

Larry Booker talks about rapid rise in arrests internet porn and doesn't preach against the internet. How is that not going with the tide of worldliness. The wpf lives in a world of suspended animation.

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Re: QUESTION: DId only 72 or 225 join WPF???????

Funny thread.
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Re: QUESTION: DId only 72 or 225 join WPF???????

Respectfully, I have a question for Kansas Preacher:

Today you say this: "(I personally knew almost 30!)" and this: "Now, only 72 have joined." (referring to words of the UPC.)

My question: Can you document where the UPC is saying that today?

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