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04-04-2008, 01:08 PM
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Re: Healing Scriptures
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Originally Posted by Jeanie
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By His stripes we are healed ...
For awhile I've struggled whether or not we in some ways misapply this verse to automatically mean physical healing .... or that somehow as some say we don't have enough faith in what he did on the cross if we do not receive healing
Looking at the context of it .... it seems to pertain mostly to our spiritual man and condition ...
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5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
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One writer states:
"The phrase "we were healed" in Strongs Concordance the Hebrew word is chabbuwrah- bound (with stripes), i.e. a weal (or black-and-blue mark itself):
The root word is #2266 chabar-1) to unite, to join, to bind together, to be joined, to be coupled, to be in league, to heap up, to have fellowship with, to unite, to join oneself to, to make an alliance.
By his stripes we were healed, we were made united to God spiritually now having fellowship where sin once kept us from this. While this does not dismiss his physically healing us, it in no way is a guarantee of it. To teach this can be just as much a disservice than someone teaching God no longer heals!"
And so I think we can apply it to physical healing but really the thrust of this message is that by His sacrifice we are make whole w/ and in God.
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04-04-2008, 01:11 PM
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Re: Healing Scriptures
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
By stripes we are healed ...
For awhile I've struggled whether or not we in some ways misapply this verse to automatically mean physical healing .... or that somehow as some say we don't have enough faith in what he did on the cross if we do not receive healing
Looking at the context of it .... it seems to pertain mostly to our spiritual man and condition ...
One writer states:
"The phrase "we were healed" in Strongs Concordance the Hebrew word is chabbuwrah- bound (with stripes), i.e. a weal (or black-and-blue mark itself):
The root word is #2266 chabar-1) to unite, to join, to bind together, to be joined, to be coupled, to be in league, to heap up, to have fellowship with, to unite, to join oneself to, to make an alliance.
By his stripes we were healed, we were made united to God spiritually now having fellowship where sin once kept us from this. While this does not dismiss his physically healing us, it in no way is a guarantee of it. To teach this can be just as much a disservice than someone teaching God no longer heals!"
And so I think we can apply to physical healing but really the thrust of this message is that by His sacrifice we are make whole w/ and in God.
More on this topic here
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Good thought-thanks for sharing!
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04-04-2008, 01:33 PM
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Re: Healing Scriptures
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
By His stripes we are healed ...
For awhile I've struggled whether or not we in some ways misapply this verse to automatically mean physical healing .... or that somehow as some say we don't have enough faith in what he did on the cross if we do not receive healing
Looking at the context of it .... it seems to pertain mostly to our spiritual man and condition ...
One writer states:
"The phrase "we were healed" in Strongs Concordance the Hebrew word is chabbuwrah- bound (with stripes), i.e. a weal (or black-and-blue mark itself):
The root word is #2266 chabar-1) to unite, to join, to bind together, to be joined, to be coupled, to be in league, to heap up, to have fellowship with, to unite, to join oneself to, to make an alliance.
By his stripes we were healed, we were made united to God spiritually now having fellowship where sin once kept us from this. While this does not dismiss his physically healing us, it in no way is a guarantee of it. To teach this can be just as much a disservice than someone teaching God no longer heals!"
And so I think we can apply it to physical healing but really the thrust of this message is that by His sacrifice we are make whole w/ and in God.
More on this topic here
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Good post, Daniel!!!!!!!
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02-09-2009, 05:17 PM
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Re: Healing Scriptures
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
By His stripes we are healed ...
For awhile I've struggled whether or not we in some ways misapply this verse to automatically mean physical healing .... or that somehow as some say we don't have enough faith in what he did on the cross if we do not receive healing
Looking at the context of it .... it seems to pertain mostly to our spiritual man and condition ...
One writer states:
"The phrase "we were healed" in Strongs Concordance the Hebrew word is chabbuwrah- bound (with stripes), i.e. a weal (or black-and-blue mark itself):
The root word is #2266 chabar-1) to unite, to join, to bind together, to be joined, to be coupled, to be in league, to heap up, to have fellowship with, to unite, to join oneself to, to make an alliance.
By his stripes we were healed, we were made united to God spiritually now having fellowship where sin once kept us from this. While this does not dismiss his physically healing us, it in no way is a guarantee of it. To teach this can be just as much a disservice than someone teaching God no longer heals!"
And so I think we can apply it to physical healing but really the thrust of this message is that by His sacrifice we are make whole w/ and in God.
More on this topic here
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The whole cause of sickness is the curse of sin which brought spiritual and eventually brings physical death. He took the punishment for sin which now Heals us from the cause of sickness, sin. We now have life eternal which is far more important than physical life. Every one is aging, that is brought on by an attack on our body by disease until the day we eventually return to the dust, waiting for the redemtion of our physical bodies with incoruptable bodies.
In the process of proving his ability to have the power over sin he demonstrated that he can heal the symptoms of sin, sickness. We also in the short term do rely on that power over sickness through his redemptive blood so that we can continue to do his work effectively.
It would do very little good to pray for someone who is lost to be healed from a disease without a healing of his soul. That would extend the phsical life but would still eventually lead to eternal death.
That is why associated with healing is the forgiveness of sins.
Pastor DT Salaz
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