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Old 07-22-2008, 05:05 PM
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LOL! thank God I'm not a doctor!
Look, have you ever known me to make a big deal over spelling and grammar before?

I understand we make errors. At least I know I do.

But to present yourself as super-educated, and then show a complete ignorance of the fundamental laws of grammar, is frustrating to me.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:25 PM
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Look, have you ever known me to make a big deal over spelling and grammar before?

I understand we make errors. At least I know I do.

But to present yourself as super-educated, and then show a complete ignorance of the fundamental laws of grammar, is frustrating to me.
Hey bro, im just making a joke.

fact is, it wouldn't matter how many degrees I got, I would never be able to spell very well.... but my grammar generally is within general tolerances......
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:00 PM
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To all of the wonderful friends and foes who post on this forum.... I want to say first of all how sorry I am if my words have offended either of you. I suppose out here you feel more at liberty to let your expressions lose since there is no personal interaction, there's no facial expressions to tell when you have hurt someone, there's no fear of having to interact with that person in the future and thus you're not as careful in the way you speak.....

I would like for this board to know... one minute with me in person and you and I would be friends for life. Anyone who has ever met me will tell you there is not a time when my smile is not from ear to ear, making everyone laugh and keeping peoples Spirits high... I love people, I love Gods church and most importantly I love God.

Here is my question..... If someone like myself is a Fundametalist.. and what I mean by that is, we take a very literal interpretation of Gods Word.. we don't do well with "We'll it really means this or that or in the original it doesn't mean that.. we find safety in taking as much of the Word at face value as possible... and if by chance we have it wrong.. we feel facing God without Greek or Hebrew knowledge would not be counted against us.....

Rather than try to find ways "Around" the Word... I am one who feels safe in reading the WORD and living it exactly as I read it... I am not condoning ignorance.. education is something I preach and believe in vehemntly.. but sometimes I do wonder if "much learning has not made us mad."

Now, my question for this board.... why is it that if someone like me who is very fundamental is so reviled? I realize my opinions are contrary to the mainstream but is was not so just years ago with my forefather.....

Had I made these statements just 30 years ago

A woman should not preach
Men should not remarry if they are divorced
Women should not cut their hair

my statements would have been in accordance with the times... but of course now in this age those statements are considered mean and unmerciful

When it comes to the marriage issue,, it is not easy for me to make the stand I do... My father is on his 4th, my mother is on her 3rd, my grandmother is on her 2nd and I was ALMOST on my 2nd... before I heard a man of God preach on the issue of Marriage and Divorce.. before that time I TRULY did not have a strong biblical foundation on the issue....

I made my stand after much study and soul searching..... for me to tell you that I believe my own Father is in sin.. is NOT EASY...... but I feel compelled to face God with a clear conscience that I said it AS I SAW IT...

If God is going to judge us by obeying what we read or obeying what we should have known the Passage REALLY MEANT.. will we not all be in trouble?

Again.,,, why is there no more room in the kingdom for men such as myself who believe in MERCY.. were it not for his mercy I would on my way to hell in a hurry... I LOVE MERCY I believe IN MERCY but I do not believe that MERCY is a LICENSE to deliberately disobey Gods Word.....

For the record.. if a man and woman has remarried,, I would always counsel them to remain as you are.... but with the knowledge you now have you must NEVER REMARRy.... Is that being cruel? Is that being hateful? or is that being faithful to Gods Word....

I bless all of you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ

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Brother Vaughn, there has been a dramatic change over the last thirty years, in that people have become much more educated on the Word of God. The availability of information is such as it has never before been in history. When people study scriptures used to defend traditionally held beliefs, and find what they've been told doesn't match up with what they've found while studying, it makes maintaining the status quo an impossibility.

With knowledge comes power. It used to be that, concerning religious issues, those in leadership were the ones with all the power to decide what was right and what was wrong. That's changed so much over the last 30 years. Christians have watched preacher after preacher fail and have decided to take that power back. It's no longer enough for the preacher to say it's such and thus. People do not have the confidence they once had in leadership, so they make these types of decisions for themselves, hopefully prayerfully and in the fear and admonition of the Lord. I don't think that's such a bad thing, Brother.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:01 PM
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The problem with a place like this is, things get written down... and can then be measured against other things that have been written down.... and they can all be varified quite easily....

It becomes quite burdensome for anyone trying to present something other than the simple truth.... Now Im not pointing fingers, just offering comentary from the cheep seats...

and you can consider that my fundimentalist perspective.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:05 PM
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Is the command to preach the Gospel only for men?

Where are women instructed to teach the Gospel rather than preach the Gospel?
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:08 PM
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Is the command to preach the Gospel only for men?

Where are women instructed to teach the Gospel rather than preach the Gospel?
Where are the instructed to PREACH THE GOSPEL?
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:16 PM
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Whats wrong with the Apostles understanding of what PREACH means? See why chase after other meanings.. when he made it clear what PREACHINg is
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Where are the instructed to PREACH THE GOSPEL?
If I take your logic to it's extreme than preaching the Gospel was only for the disciples ... and verses in which he commissions them like Matthew 28 only apply to them ... and not us.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:34 PM
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Is the command to preach the Gospel only for men?

Where are women instructed to teach the Gospel rather than preach the Gospel?
Was he speaking to men or women disciples when he gave this command.. the gospel is more than JESUS LOVES YOU.. it is the entire counsel of God... the doctrines of Christ
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Was he speaking to men or women disciples when he gave this command.. the gospel is more than JESUS LOVES YOU.. it is the entire counsel of God... the doctrines of Christ
Other versions of the Great Commission are found Mark 16:14-18, Luke 24:44-49, Acts 1:4-8, and John 20:19-23. All these passages are composed as words of Christ spoken after his resurrection.

In Acts 1 .. ..he says power would be given so that they could be witnesses ... to proclaim the Gospel ...

This power is for all ... women received this power also ... we are given this power for a task ..... not just our personal edification.

Is the Holy Ghost just for men?
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:43 PM
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Was he speaking to men or women disciples when he gave this command.. the gospel is more than JESUS LOVES YOU.. it is the entire counsel of God... the doctrines of Christ
The Gospel is the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ ....

Doctrines are teachings ...

Your position is that woman cannot proclaim the Gospel ... and in doing so they cannot teach doctrine.
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