Is Obesity a Sin?

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by ronharvey

To many times though the 'trusted' person you confess to is the one who ruins your life.

They are your friend as long as you lean on them, their addiction IS people like you.

Get better and they get bitter.

I have seen it way too many times with people.

Praise Him,

TGIF!

Confess your faults one to another that ye may be healed.

Becoming co-dependent does lead to further failure in people but does not give us the excuse to avoid the practice of confession.

Common sense and wisdom will lead us to posotive results with those who need someone to confide in.

Anyone who's been married a long time, knows, without honesty and confession a marriage will lack trust, leading to dilluted communication and poor relationship.

If anyone knows this (about co-dependecy), pastors do. People can latch on and never let go. I've often told folks, "It's time for you to fly on your own." The people business is a tough one. It's never been easy, and never will be. The Cross is proof of that.

We cringe when people ask for our cloke, let alone our coat as well. We save some by pulling them out of the fire. Not all reach for my hand but I keep trying.

God Bless

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by 2020Vision

Sigh - this topic AGAIN? Obesity and gluttony aren't the same, though the share a relationship.

Cindy - haha. fasting is bad for your body too. Guess that's a Biblical contradiction. It defiles the body! lol

fasting, done correctly, can be benefical to the body.

I'm not talking about starvation but deprivation of things that are harmful to us is a good start to getting healthy.

Obesity in and of itself is not a sin. overindulgence to the point of damage to our bodies, soul, mind and spirit - not being good stewards of the bodies God has intrusted us with - not being good employees, saints, citizens, neighbors....all those things are sinful.

Obesity alone is not - there are other factors involved that cannot be singled out as overindulgence or gluttony.

The only straight answer to this question is NO - at face value, it's not a sin.

But unhealthy lifestyle choices, I personally feel are sinful - they go against everything a christian should be...

[2020Vision]

Originally Posted by Theresa

fasting, done correctly, can be benefical to the body.

I'm not talking about starvation but deprivation of things that are harmful to us is a good start to getting healthy.

Obesity in and of itself is not a sin. overindulgence to the point of damage to our bodies, soul, mind and spirit - not being good stewards of the bodies God has intrusted us with - not being good employees, saints, citizens, neighbors....all those things are sinful.

Obesity alone is not - there are other factors involved that cannot be singled out as overindulgence or gluttony.

The only straight answer to this question is NO - at face value, it's not a sin.

But unhealthy lifestyle choices, I personally feel are sinful - they go against everything a christian should be...

And I completely agree.

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by 2020Vision

And I completely agree.

*faint*

[2020Vision]

Originally Posted by Theresa

*faint*

lol

[DeepThinker]

[QUOTE=2020Vision;662038]Sigh - this topic AGAIN? Obesity and gluttony aren't the same, though the share a relationship.

Well, it should be brought up again and again, this is a "big" thing in the Churches.

We don't eat to live, we live to eat. Right after Church, the buffet restaurants are crowded with Church goers. And I was right there amongst them all, not just chowing down, but cowing down. Moooooo

[NotforSale]

[QUOTE=DeepThinker;862420]

Originally Posted by 2020Vision

Sigh - this topic AGAIN? Obesity and gluttony aren't the same, though the share a relationship.

Well, it should be brought up again and again, this is a "big" thing in the Churches.

We don't eat to live, we live to eat. Right after Church, the buffet restaurants are crowded with Church goers. And I was right there amongst them all, not just chowing down, but cowing down. Moooooo

I know what you mean. The Church LOVES to eat. What did you think about the video? And, how about that smoking cigarettes are less of a risk than being obese?

[jimmyrrs]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

With obesity considered the #1 health epidemic in America, causing irrepairable damage to the human body (our temple), how should we as Christians approach this subject? I was told as a new convert, take care of your temple (body). Be moderate. Have temperance (have self-control).

Repent of things that destroy and be a good example.

Obesity is proven to cause diabetes, heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure, cancer; and the list goes on.

We tell folks to quit smoking because of the dangerous side affects caused by this unhealthy habit. Are we able to take this stand if we accept the "overweight" issue by looking the other way?

I've seen many preachers "joke" away at this subject to calm the air of thier obvious lack of self-control in this area. In reality, being fat is not funny, it's unhealthy. I've watched them preach strong and hard to live holy; Live holy? I guess I'm a little confused here, as holiness covers our physical and spiritual being.

Don't mean to offend here, just stating the facts of how the lost may (are) looking at our ability to justify gluttony. In past churches I've attended, visitors were very suprised at the amount of overweight people on the pews. I'm not just talking about a few pounds either; 100 or more.

I have many good friends who are big. One of them is 400 pounds and he is only 40. He laughs now, but in the next few years laughter will turn to tears.

I do believe mercy plays a role in this somewhere. But, where do we draw the line? How far do we go? Will the church simply end up "full" of the sick because we can't push the plate away or get off the couch?

The prayer line would shrink and we would feel better if we would learn the blessing of proper diet and exercise.

If you are overweight and are reading this, please, I have compassion on your dilema. We have great abundance in this Country and many convienences that now take away the "task" where calories were once burned. There is hope, though. Find people who enjoy getting out, who have the same desire as you to shed the pounds and get in shape.

People can revolutionize thier existence by good old fashioned discipline and motivation. Not only will you feel better, people will notice you care about yourself and your Light will shine with new vigor. The doctor will be stunned when you show up to your next appointment with normal blood pressure and no more need for "PILLS".

The Dr. did not think I was overweight. I'm 198 lbs. I had a few problems and they wanted me to start taking pills. I told them no thank you, not at this time. What else could I do to help control my problem. Their answer, watch what you eat. I did. In three months I was tested again and so far so good.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by jimmyrrs

The Dr. did not think I was overweight. I'm 198 lbs. I had a few problems and they wanted me to start taking pills. I told them no thank you, not at this time. What else could I do to help control my problem. Their answer, watch what you eat. I did. In three months I was tested again and so far so good.

Make sure you include exercise in your routine. Eating the right foods, alone, is not enough. At least 3-4 days a week of 30 minutes or more of cardio work (heart rate above 120). I live in the Northwest so I have to resort to my indoor bicycle to keep myself intact (in shape) in the winter. I'll also do some light weight training to tone my upper body.

Your heart is a muscle and must be exercised otherwise it becomes "flabby". The more you exercise you will also lower your heart rate. This is good. The resting heart rate of an exeptional athlete can be as low as the mid 30's (30 BPM). This is extreme. Mine is around 55, which is considered very good.

Buy a blood pressure device for home. This is great for checking yourself.

I'm 48 years old and have exercised faithfully for the last 21 years. Being in the Marine Corps, they kind of put it in you to PT (Physical training). You never forget.

Because of this, I watch what I eat, my weight is under control, and my blood pressure is excellent. No pills for me, either. This also helps me in my overall well being as a Pastor. The saints appreciate when they see I take care of myself. They will also ask for advice when seeking for change in thier own life.

God Bless: christmasfire

[jimmyrrs]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Make sure you include exercise in your routine. Eating the right foods, alone, is not enough. At least 3-4 days a week of 30 minutes or more of cardio work (heart rate above 120). I live in the Northwest so I have to resort to my indoor bicycle to keep myself intact (in shape) in the winter. I'll also do some light weight training to tone my upper body.

Your heart is a muscle and must be exercised otherwise it becomes "flabby". The more you exercise you will also lower your heart rate. This is good. The resting heart rate of an exeptional athlete can be as low as the mid 30's (30 BPM). This is extreme. Mine is around 55, which is considered very good.

Buy a blood pressure device for home. This is great for checking yourself.

I'm 48 years old and have exercised faithfully for the last 21 years. Being in the Marine Corps, they kind of put it in you to PT (Physical training). You never forget.

Because of this, I watch what I eat, my weight is under control, and my blood pressure is excellent. No pills for me, either. This also helps me in my overall well being as a Pastor. The saints appreciate when they see I take care of myself. They will also ask for advice when seeking for change in thier own life.

God Bless: christmasfire

You are correct. I forget to say exercise. My wife has BP problems so she keeps a check on me also.
As a minister, one of the things my org. encourages is for us to have yearly checkups.
I wish everyone would do it.