Is Obesity a Sin?

[Innocuous]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

True. The eviroment has changed drastically and things like Chernobyl proved what can happen by man's inventions going sour.

It has been proven though, when the diet of these countries changed, so did thier health.

Garbage in, garbage out. It wouldn't surprise me if our food itself has things in it that we know nothing about. This also the result of enviromental change.

Obesity though, is the result of too much of one thing and not enough of the other; this is a fact. And this imbalance has led to soring medical costs and a pharmacutical industry that's rubbing thier hands together with glee.

The real sad thing is that we lose and we suffer for this, unless we stand up and do something about it.

Thanks, NFS

I totally agree with you about the obesity factor and the impact the environment has on our food. The latter is one benefit of organic foods.

[MomOfADramaQn]

Originally Posted by Innocuous

I don't disagree with what you're saying here. But I believe that the increase in illnesses in developing countries has been traced more to environmental degradation than diet.

Where did you come up with the idea that environmental degradation is what has caused the increase in illness? There is study after study that proves that poor diet is the cause of poor health

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Tina

Just a side note: Don't assume that everyone who is obese is that way because they overeat or don't exercise. There are some serious health issues that cause people to be overweight as well, no matter how little they eat or how much they exercise. (Cushings disease, Adrenal insufficiency, etc)
If this turns into another bash the overweight minister thread, I will petition the rest of admin team to allow me to close it. Once this week was enough....... for those who ended up getting the other thread locked -please don't ruin another thread that started out in the right way.

I agree, my mother was one of them.

[Innocuous]

What is obese? Do we go by the gov't guideline? By their guideline I am a sinner. If I was to qualify as saint in this regard I'd be a stick and would weigh what I weighed as a freshman in high school when I wore 28" waist jeans. Am I a sinner then? Maybe. If so then it is because of grace that I say grace at every meal.

[2020Vision]

"Bodily exercise profiteth little." What was the scripture? Another Scriptural fallacy! Doh! Wait, I have to understand that in context?

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by 2020Vision

"Bodily exercise profiteth little." What was the scripture? Another Scriptural fallacy! Doh! Wait, I have to understand that in context?

What's funny, I'm a pastor and I struggle with this verse, too. When I tell the saints to exercise, "But Pastor, it profiteth LITTLE". I mean, uh, well, uh yeah, I know, but, you know (not trying to sound like Obama here)................

I just say, "A little means a whole lot to the Lord".

How do you like that "context"????

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

What's funny, I'm a pastor and I struggle with this verse, too. When I tell the saints to exercise, "But Pastor, it profiteth LITTLE". I mean, uh, well, uh yeah, I know, but, you know (not trying to sound like Obama here)................

I just say, "A little means a whole lot to the Lord".

How do you like that "context"????

That will preach!!!!!!!!!!

[Kae]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

What's funny, I'm a pastor and I struggle with this verse, too. When I tell the saints to exercise, "But Pastor, it profiteth LITTLE". I mean, uh, well, uh yeah, I know, but, you know (not trying to sound like Obama here)................

I just say, "A little means a whole lot to the Lord".

How do you like that "context"????

This scripture was written when the main mode of transportation was walking.

[Kae]

Malnutrition causes obesity. The body thinks you are fasting and starts storing up fat. It is hard to find nutrient rich foods these days.

People a hundred years ago ate about 5lbs of sugar a year. Today people eat 150lbs a year.

Calories don't matter as long as they are nutrient rich. You need nutrients to exercise, very difficult to do without energy.

An athlete just thinks about exercise and he starts to lose weight. An average person has to do 15 minutes before the body will start burning fat. A person that is seditary will take 30 to 45 minutes of exercise before their bodies will begin to burn fat.

When you start adding more nutrient rich foods to your diet it will first go to the most serious health issues before it will go to the weight loss.

Drink a gallon of water a day (work up to it) and it will flush out toxic water from the body which will result in quick weight loss that isn't harmful.

You didn't get their overnight and it isn't a quick fix, no matter how many diets come out proclaiming otherwise.

Some obese people have been that way since they were young. We need to stop badgering people and telling them it is just a matter of self control. It is a matter of knowledge.

Sugar is poison to the body and will cause you to eat things you normally wouldn't touch with a clear mind.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Kae

Malnutrition causes obesity. The body thinks you are fasting and starts storing up fat. It is hard to find nutrient rich foods these days.

People a hundred years ago ate about 5lbs of sugar a year. Today people eat 150lbs a year.

Calories don't matter as long as they are nutrient rich. You need nutrients to exercise, very difficult to do without energy.

An athlete just thinks about exercise and he starts to lose weight. An average person has to do 15 minutes before the body will start burning fat. A person that is seditary will take 30 to 45 minutes of exercise before their bodies will begin to burn fat.

When you start adding more nutrient rich foods to your diet it will first go to the most serious health issues before it will go to the weight loss.

Drink a gallon of water a day (work up to it) and it will flush out toxic water from the body which will result in quick weight loss that isn't harmful.

You didn't get their overnight and it isn't a quick fix, no matter how many diets come out proclaiming otherwise.

Some obese people have been that way since they were young. We need to stop badgering people and telling them it is just a matter of self control. It is a matter of knowledge.

Sugar is poison to the body and will cause you to eat things you normally wouldn't touch with a clear mind.

IMO, Kae's post seems valuable and thoughtful, thanks for taking the time.

I can not help believing that something is VERY WRONG in our understanding involving what we take into our bodies. I am inclined to believe that our adversary, who is a liar, is subtly in the big mix. A mixture that may well involve various influences like; mood, lust (desire to have), propensity toward excess, fear of lack, enticements, pleasure centers, and a general lack of alertness toward cause and effect.

Similar to the endless supply of lascivious images that invade our sightlines, food (solid and liquid) is set before us as something that can be for good or for evil.

Obesity is an "effect" of something. How each of us, as spiritually-minded sojourners, participate in the "consumables" of this present world, will help us consider our own hearts...from which all the issues of life proceed, and also the manner in which the adversary and sin can be given place in our lives.

As far as our body is concerned, consumption is largely a "chemical" feedstock. Stimuli and responses; triggers and dominoes, each one affecting the other. With such vast complexity, the need for a wonderful counselor to guide us in this aspect of life is undeniable.