Hell and suicide? - Page 2

JDN1972 · #1 05-12-2009, 11:09 PM

I would like to weigh in on this matter. First I want every one to know that as born again christian's we should pray every chance we get that the spirit of violence,(inward and outward) be bound and cast into outer darkness, knowing that the days of his return are sooner than we think. We should also realize that it's hard to imagine any demonic force being totally bound. As for myself being filled with the holy ghost, I have and are still going thru things that make me wish for death. I used to drive a tow truck and was really depressed about things and would think about stepping out into traffic daily, But did not. Please understand there are millions of people that go thru things we could never imagine ourselves going thru. Yet they still cope and try to make things better for themselves. My main concern is that christians should spend more time in prayer, than wondering who the devil is going to take next! I REBUKE THAT SPIRIT OF TOLERANCE!!!!! If a man dies of natural causes without Christ we know where he is to spend forever, then why should make exception for those whose lives havn't been as smooth as ours. Where do we draw the line?

John 6:60 (King James Version)

60;Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

shawndell · #2 05-13-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JDN1972

I would like to weigh in on this matter. First I want every one to know that as born again christian's we should pray every chance we get that the spirit of violence,(inward and outward) be bound and cast into outer darkness, knowing that the days of his return are sooner than we think. We should also realize that it's hard to imagine any demonic force being totally bound. As for myself being filled with the holy ghost, I have and are still going thru things that make me wish for death. I used to drive a tow truck and was really depressed about things and would think about stepping out into traffic daily, But did not. Please understand there are millions of people that go thru things we could never imagine ourselves going thru. Yet they still cope and try to make things better for themselves. My main concern is that christians should spend more time in prayer, than wondering who the devil is going to take next! I REBUKE THAT SPIRIT OF TOLERANCE!!!!! If a man dies of natural causes without Christ we know where he is to spend forever, then why should make exception for those whose lives havn't been as smooth as ours. Where do we draw the line?

John 6:60 (King James Version)

60;Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

I love your picture it brings to mind who holds the keys to death,hell.and the grave.You are right we need to run to Jesus.He is our savior and hes strong enough to over come any thing!

Shawn · #3 05-04-2009, 10:27 AM

We were told to love our enemy's. I think the Lord has better things in mind than to torment 99.5% of creation for eternity.

RandyWayne · #4 05-04-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

Judgment is the setting of things right, God will redeem all of his creation. You need not worry of this young man, his heavenly Father loves him more perfectly than all your or my sympathy.

Are we so stupid to think that we could be more loving and kind and merciful than our heavenly Father? Most traditionalists believe that God's justice requires that this man and millions like him be tortured for eterinty. This is proof that the reformers mantained the worst of the apostate doctrines of the dark ages and the RCC.

Your response comes from the heart of God, but have no fear "...the judge of all will do right..."

Excellent words

Ron · #5 05-04-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

Judgment is the setting of things right, God will redeem all of his creation. You need not worry of this young man, his heavenly Father loves him more perfectly than all your or my sympathy.

Are we so stupid to think that we could be more loving and kind and merciful than our heavenly Father? Most traditionalists believe that God's justice requires that this man and millions like him be tortured for eterinty. This is proof that the reformers mantained the worst of the apostate doctrines of the dark ages and the RCC.

Your response comes from the heart of God, but have no fear "...the judge of all will do right..."

Are we more just or holy, or righteous?

I have a message called, "A Balanced God!"
Gods righteousness, holiness, & holiness balances out his mercy, grace, & love!
He by his very nature can not tolerate sin & must judge it.
He by his great grace & mercy has made a way of escape!

crakjak · #6 05-04-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Are we more just or holy, or righteous?

I have a message called, "A Balanced God!"
Gods righteousness, holiness, & holiness balances out his mercy, grace, & love!
He by his very nature can not tolerate sin & must judge it.
He by his great grace & mercy has made a way of escape!

Of course his purpose is to bring an end to sin, and His love required that He provide an antidote for the curse, which He did in Christ.

This line of thought brings to mind where Jesus said, "...if you fathers being evil (in comparison to Himself) know how to give good gifts to your children, how MUCH MORE will your Heavenly Father give..." If we love are moved with compassion for the unfortunate, how much more is He moved? And He has the power to do and to continue to do something about it. No where in Scripture does it say that physical death is the end of God's reaching for His creation.

LUKE2447 · #7 05-04-2009, 10:40 AM

RW so I guess you are into Universalism as well?

Absolutely amazing!

RandyWayne · #8 05-04-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

RW so I guess you are into Universalism as well?

Absolutely amazing!

Huh?

crakjak · #9 05-04-2009, 10:59 AM

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RW so I guess you are into Universalism as well?

Absolutely amazing!

Absolutely Amazing Grace and Amazing LOVE!!!

Lose your lens of the god of torture, torment and lack of ability to save his creation, and you will see that it pervasive thru out scripture.

He came to seek and to save the lost, not to torment and torture because of Satan's ability to deceive his own creation.

Oh, the all powerful "freewill" of men the greatest power in all the universe, second only to the power of Satan to destroy. Surely you can do better than that!

God is awesome to save, Jesus said it is finished, man says I must help God save His creation. The elect or saved in this life, all the rest will be saved, each in his own time.

God is Awesome, and every one of His creation is precious in His sight. What great and wonderful "Good News".

Esther · #10 05-04-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

Absolutely Amazing Grace and Amazing LOVE!!!

Lose your lens of the god of torture, torment and lack of ability to save his creation, and you will see that it pervasive thru out scripture.

He came to seek and to save the lost, not to torment and torture because of Satan's ability to deceive his own creation.

Oh, the all powerful "freewill" of men the greatest power in all the universe, second only to the power of Satan to destroy. Surely you can do better than that!

God is awesome to save, Jesus said it is finished, man says I must help God save His creation. The elect or saved in this life, all the rest will be saved, each in his own time.

God is Awesome, and every one of His creation is precious in His sight. What great and wonderful "Good News".

So you don't believe there is a hell?