The Removal of Romans 14:22 - Page 3

mfblume · #1 07-11-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HopePreacher

What do you think is the motivation for a pastor to require the members to sign such a paper?

Probably a sincere effort to deal with a problem with some members who cannot restrain themselves. But it is a mistake of acting like God to people who do not want to heed God. We cannot make people do things they refuse to do for the Lord.

If people do not want to do something, it is no use making them do so, for it neither blesses them nor God. It's still in their hearts.

In this particular instance, it was an alternative to actually dealing with certain unrestrained people individually, and was so much easier to bully the issue to everyone from the pulpit. Anyway, it's no church I belong to nor ever did belong to. But it's sad to hear it is happening in some places.

Pressing-On · #2 07-11-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Probably a sincere effort to deal with a problem with some members who cannot restrain themselves. But it is a mistake of acting like God to people who do not want to heed God. We cannot make people do things they refuse to do for the Lord.

If people do not want to do something, it is no use making them do so, for it neither blesses them nor God. It's still in their hearts.

In this particular instance, it was an alternative to actually dealing with certain unrestrained people individually, and was so much easier to bully the issue to everyone from the pulpit. Anyway, it's no church I belong to nor ever did belong to. But it's sad to hear it is happening in some places.

I simply believe it was a part of evolving and the fear of losing decency when America was going another way. That was their best solution, but are finding that it doesn't work as well as it may have in the 50's and subsequent years.

I see changes and the evolving continuing. Even though it's a slow process, it is happening. I see leaders coming into place that have had circumstances in their lives open their eyes to more compassion, understanding and a genuine reach for the things that matter more to God than a system.

Scott Hutchinson · #3 07-11-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HopePreacher

What do you think is the motivation for a pastor to require the members to sign such a paper?

Alot of pastors are scared of what their peers think,many people are afraid of being labeled a compromiser,and many pastors want the reputation that they control the saints,and they don't anybody to think that they aren't in control of a flock as so their reputations are tarnished.

Scott Hutchinson · #4 07-11-2009, 02:21 PM

If one is around believers who are always looking at you with a fine tooth comb always looking for fault examining your every move,you'll get frustrated to where you can't function,and one can get so in despair to where one can feel like thinking what the use living for God when every move I make seems wrong.

mfblume · #5 07-11-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

If one is around believers who are always looking at you with a fine tooth comb always looking for fault examining your every move,you'll get frustrated to where you can't function,and one can get so in despair to where one can feel like thinking what the use living for God when every move I make seems wrong.

And that is time to get away from such people.

Scott Hutchinson · #6 07-11-2009, 02:24 PM

God doesn't take a cookie -cutter and make us all the same,there are things that I have personal preferences about,but if those things aren't edicts from God,I don't have the right to impose them on others in the body of Christ.

mfblume · #7 07-11-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

God doesn't take a cookie -cutter and make us all the same,there are things that I have personal preferences about,but if those things aren't edicts from God,I don't have the right to impose them on others in the body of Christ.

Amen, and I believe we should distance ourselves from churches that do.

mfblume · #8 07-11-2009, 02:34 PM

Right, Bro H. Preachers in some circles are pressured by their peers to conform and be a certain way. They would never do such things otherwise.

Scott Hutchinson · #9 07-11-2009, 02:40 PM

I don't drink but for example suppose a Christian has a medical issue and drunk a little passover wine for their probelm as suggested by a doctor ok then suppose a Christian has a medical issue then takes a prescription drug as ordered by a doctor that can be habit-forming for a medical probelm what's the difference ?

Scott Hutchinson · #10 07-11-2009, 02:41 PM

I think a person's motives comes to play in issues like this.