Rare Sister Charlotte Testimony - tortured nun

[canam]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I agree. Nothing wrong with verification.

No argument there, but to call someone you never met ,in all likelyhood,a brass plated fraud, is not to be believed and that person should be ignored as an illogical person.The RCC is the most abusive religious org.in history, physically and mentally, that i have ever heard or read of.

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by canam

No argument there, but to call someone you never met ,in all likelyhood,a brass plated fraud, is not to be believed and that person should be ignored as an illogical person.The RCC is the most abusive religious org.in history, physically and mentally, that i have ever heard or read of.

so true....

[deadeye]

Where did timlan go ??????....did he cop out when Elder Blume slapped him down with the facts.....

Where are you timlan?????

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by canam

No argument there, but to call someone you never met ,in all likelyhood,a brass plated fraud, is not to be believed and that person should be ignored as an illogical person.The RCC is the most abusive religious org.in history, physically and mentally, that i have ever heard or read of.

And I say AMEN to that as well!

We have a church movement that claims direct descent from Peter as Pope, that openly murdered multitudes of people, and claimed it was a "mistake." The true church would never remotely involve MURDER and have the gall to call themselves the true church that made a mistake. Regardless of who else murdered people in the name of God as well, who would also be as far from God as possible, there is no excuse for those things. And then catholics have the audacity to question Charlotte and say such things could never go on as she described? Reality check, folks.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by canam

No argument there, but to call someone you never met ,in all likelyhood,a brass plated fraud, is not to be believed and that person should be ignored as an illogical person.The RCC is the most abusive religious org.in history, physically and mentally, that i have ever heard or read of.

I disagree with this statement. Religious fanaticism and abuse is nothing new today. Other Faith's in the World have a long line of abuse, including the Jewish Faith.

When my son in law came home from the Middle East during the Gulf War, I was shocked to learn how women are treated and abused in this culture that is based and reeking in Religion.

No offense, but it is statements like yours that can carry on as a "Fact", which in turn is really not the Truth. I was born and raised a Catholic and have deep Catholic roots in my family. The Father of the parish where we attended church was a very good man and was loved by the community. The Catholic School I attended was excellent and the Nuns were great teachers. Mind you, this was in the 60's when the child molestation problem was going on.

I don't think it is fair to paint with such a broad brush. Think about your statement. Have you considered the abuse, mentally, physically, and emotionally within the Apostolic Church?

Look at how Jesus rebuked the Religious of his day. Look at how the Religious treated Stephen, Paul, and how they crucified Jesus.

[whoami]

I'm probably going to get blasted for saying this, but I've often wondered what the history of abuse would be like if the UPC was as old and vast as the RCC. There are bad people in every organization, and the bigger the org. is, the more of them it will contain.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by whoami

I'm probably going to get blasted for saying this, but I've often wondered what the history of abuse would be like if the UPC was as old and vast as the RCC. There are bad people in every organization, and the bigger the org. is, the more of them it will contain.

Nothing wrong with saying this at all. You bring up a very good point and one that must be considered.

The only potential wrong with what you've said, is if you decided to say nothing at all.

The greatest danger to any movement whether it be political, religious, business, or historical, would be to ridicule those who challenge the authenticity of that particular movement.

[mfblume]

There are some apostolics with as much false "tradition" as the Roman Catholic Church, I think.

[whoami]

Originally Posted by mfblume

There are some apostolics with as much false "tradition" as the Roman Catholic Church, I think.

Yes there are, and some that are sexual abusers too. Just as there are in every organization.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by whoami

Yes there are, and some that are sexual abusers too. Just as there are in every organization.

Exactly.