I WILL TRY TO FEED YOU BABIES JUST A LITTLE MEAT AND NOT MILK.
I have not heard so much heresy talk in a while. I do agree that the oneness orgs. are in disunity. The church is in bad SPIRITUAL CONDITION because of the so-called pastors, evangelist, overseers, all the clergy. I have not found in scripture one verse to prove and validate there is to be one man over GOD's people. I have tried to find valdation for a lot of the other teachings that are taught and as of yet no verses in scriptures are found to support "a pastor, tithing, divorce, x-mass, halloween, valentine's day, easter and etc. either. Until the body comes together as instructed in Acts and the epistles there will continue to be division in this ONE body of CHRIST. Now until these critical doctrinal issues are resolved there can be no TRUTH nor unity to embrace are found in the body. We can NOT fellowship, keep company with, nor eat (FEAST on GOD'S WORD) with the world
1Cor.11: 23-32 2Cor. 6:13-18, much less to fellowship and keep company with a BROTHER that does or continues these practices of the trinitarians. How can we come out from among them if we go to the eat (recieve) the LORD'S word with them? What we do is eat at the devils table and then at the LORD'S table 1Cor.10:13-22. Moses stated that the Israelites were NOT to mingle with any of the nations in Canaan. For you Apostolic's to speak such heresies or to allow it on here is beyon me. We have to be divid, because the pastors teach division. Each pastor teaches his own doctrine. One pastor teaches that a man can NOT grow a mustache, or side-burns just to show obedience to him (the pastor) before he can show obedience to GOD. Before you lose your cool, yes, they all teach the d.b.r. and the bapism in jesus name the same. There is more to UNITY than having been baptised in jesus name and recieving the H.G. CHRIST stated to peter to feed MY ( HIS) sheep NOT peter's sheep John 21:15-18. Which most of the pastors state that the sheep are his. Most of the congregations, state that they are of Puckett, Binion, Conley, McItosh, Mc Graw, Bates and etc.,NEVER OF GOD read 1Cor.1:12-17.
We NOT ony make them popes but are now having respect of persons Lev. 19:15;Deu. 1:17;16:19; 2Chr. 19:7; Prov.24:23;28:21; Rom.2:11; Eph.6:9; Col.3:25; Jas. 2:1,9. Did your pastor get crusified fore you? YOU DO HAVE RESPECT OF PERSON WHEN YOU SUPPORT HIM AND OR HIS FAMILY OVER ANY OF THE OTHERS OF THAT CONGREGATION. THERE WAS ALWAYS MORE THAN ONE LEADER OVER GOD'S PEOPLE FROM MOSES TILL NOW! TITHES WAS ANNULLED WITH THE PRIESTHOOD, UNLESS YOU ARE STILL LIVING UNDER THE LAW OF MOSES TO PAY TITHES TO THE LEVITES OR ARE CATHOLIC OR ONE OF HER ILLEGIMATE DAUGHTERS. The teaching of the word of GOD is to be a separate people and to take care of each other and to make sure each have everthing common! We are to have everything common as is stated in Acts 4:32-37 at the begaining of this covanant with GOD and in 2Co.r 8:11-15.
Moses and the prophets state to take care of the poor making him have as you have Exo. 22:25;Lev. 22:25,35,39;Deu.15:4,7,9;24:11-15;Psa.102; Zec7:10;Mat.19:21 Rom. 15:26Gal. 2:10, what we have to day is gain for the pastors good or self- good not to see to our poor brother, the widow or the fatherless. There was no big building that was call the church. It was each and every saint that was called the building (temple of GOD) Rea 1Cor. 3:16,17
Pease go back and study the priesthood, the Levites took a tithe, BUT NOT the priest of Aaron, he recieved a tithe from the Levites NOT the people. These tithes were to support their needs as well to be able to perform the morning and evening sacrifices, to give to the stranger and etc. TITHES WERE ANNULLED AT THE DEATH OF CHRIST Heb.7:12!! I know that the pastors will use Beb. 7:4-10 trying to prove tithing by these verses, but if you wil read in Gen. 14:18-24 READ IT STUDY IT AND ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION HOW COULD ABRAHAM PAY, GIVE A TITHE OF NOTHING! IT WAS MELCHIZEDECK THAT GAVE A TENTH TO ABRAHAM OUT OF THE BREAD AND WINE WHICH HE HAD BROUGHT WITH HIM. AS A METAPHOR OF THE COMMUNION WITH CHRIST (THE LAST SUPPER). THE CATHOLIC ADDED WHAT THEY COULD TO TRY TO PROVE THAT TITHES ARE STILL TO BE PAID IN THE N. T. JUST AS THEY ADDED TO THE WORDS OF GOD IN 1JOHN 5:7,8 TO TRY TO PROVE THEIR TRINITY. NOW THE PASTORS ARE DOING THE SAME THING . SKINNING THE SHEEP OF GOD ALIVE by TEACHING FALSE DOCTTRINE. MALACHI PRONOUNCE A CURSE ON THE PRIESTS (PASTORS) IF IT WERE TODAY AND NOT THE PEOPLE! We are taught by the pastors " that GOD put him as an overseer us " READ YOUR SCRIPTURE IT IS NOT TRUE, IT IS A FLAT LIE AND HERESY!! WE HAVE ONE HIGH PRIEST OVER US THAT IS GOD HIMSELF. NOT a pastor which is as a pope.
HOW CAN ALL THE DIVISION BE STOPPED?
NOT BY GOING TO TRINITY DOCTTRINE FOR FOLLOWSHIP!
We first most put a stop to pastor over each congregation. Why, it is catholic doctrine. We hold to her teaching on this. Seconly, stop taking or paying tithes. Why, it is catholic doctrine as well. Thirdly, stop all the pagan diety worshiping of and on certian days as valentines day, easter, halloween and christmas! There is no proof in scripture for celebrating valentine day, why, because it is worshiping a catholic priest named valentine. There is no scriture to celebrate easter ESPECIALLY the hutting of eggs and dressing your children in bunny rabbit suits. Which is animal worship. WORSHIPING THE CRREATION MORE THAN THE CREATOR. GOD SAID NOT TO MAKE ANY GRAVEN IMAGES. THE PICTURES OF CHRIST IN YUOR HOME OR MEETING PLACES IS AN ABOMINATION! TO GET TO THE NITY GRITY, ANY PICTURE IS WRONG TO HAVE. CHISTMAS IS ONE OF THE WORST OF ALL TRANSGREESIONS , WHY, BECUASE CHRIST STATES TO MEMORALIZE HIS DEATH ONLY UNTIL HE COMES NOT HIS BIRTH FOR NO PERSON KNOWS HIS BIRTH. WE ADD TO GOD'S WORD BY DOING THIS.
WHEN WE DO HALLOWEEN WE TAKE AWAY FROM HIS WORD! Please read for GOD said to KILL ALL Witches.
ALL THE ABOVE IS FROM THE CATHOLIC FATHERS AND WHEN WE HONOR ANY OF THE ABOVE IT IS THE SAME AS WORSHIP AND AS THE PAGANS (GENLITES) DO. I WOULD LIKE TO ADRESS ANOTHER CRITICAL ISSUE. SOME PASTORS TEACH THEIR CONGREGATION IT IS OK OR PREMISSIBLE BY GOD TO DIVORCE FOR ANY REASON. THIS IS NOT TRUE read Mat. 5:32; Rom7:1-3; 1Cor. 7:10,11,16,17. Just as it is wrong for a pastor to teach that the wife of another man is to obey him(the pastor) over or instead of her own husband, even if he does not attend the assembly nor obey GOD'S word read 1Pet. 3:1,2;Eph.5:24; Col. 3:18. WE BETTER OBEY GOD THAN MAN ACTS 5:29 PROVE ALL THINGS 1Th. 5;21.
Yes, I know that all will say I so discord. I teach and and speak the truth of GOD's word! All saints need to study GOD's word and in fellowship and all MUST reason it out together!! I state it is the same as if we were living back under the law, if what the pastors teach as truth to day is premitted to be taught and followed. Another false teaching is one man over each congregation Acts 14:23; 20:17; Tit. 1:5; Heb. 13:17 state that there is to be more than one over each congregation. In Heb. 13:17 uses the words them and they, NOT HE or HIM! I know that pastors say they have a board and deacons and trustees. This is not true for I was on a board and found out the truth of the matter. NO TRUSTEE HAS ANY SAY SO, THEY HAVE TO DO THE BIDDING OF THE PASTOR OR BE TAKEN OFf AS A TRUSTEE. i COULD NOT QUESTION ANY THING THE PASTOR SAID OR DID. WHEN A PASTOR HAS ALL THE AUTHORITY, THEN HE HAS BECOME A POPE. WHEN THE ONLY PERSON THAT BENEFITS FROM HAVING A CHURCH BUILDING CALLED A MEETING HOUSE IS THE PASTOR THERE IS UTTERLY A FAULT AMONG US.
WE AS A CONGREGATION ARE TO KNOW ALL THINGS THAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT CONGREGATION. READ 1Cor. 5: 12,13; 6:1-12, ESPECIALLY V.4,7,8 ALL OF GAL. ESP. 2:14 3:10,25; 5;12; 6:6; 1TI. 5:20
If the papal rule is allowed to continue then we do not have to worry about fellowshipin the trinity we are TRINITY. Why, because we hold to their teachings their doctrines. We have NOT come out from among them. We follow eavery holiday they do we even hold to sunday as the LORD'S day or sabath. So do not fret over not getting to fellowship your trinity ubelieving pagan worshipers, you are one by upholding their doctrines, you just refuse to have company with them. GO AHEAD YOU ARE CATHOLIC FOR YOU ARE AS ONE OF HER DAUGHTERS.
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So, Precis, what are you really trying to say?
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
Precis, one thing is for sure. You don't express many if any of the fruit of the spirit in the tenor of your post. Your approach is arrogant and confrontational. Something that makes me tend to not seriously consider anything you write as I consider the source.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Jtullock,
I've got to agree with you on this. If you read some of my earlier post you will know
more about me, and where I come from.
Even while I was in the UPC(Held licences for 17 years) Not one time did I ever stand
in a pulpit at my home church or away and tell people unless you are baptized in
Jesus name you are going to hell.
Just couldn't do it. Was I baptized in Jesus Name? Yes. That is how I was baptized and raised. I
will never condemm anyone for the way they see salvation.
The way I see it...............I don't care how you see salvation. Just let me see some
fruit. Trust me. If you are truly saved...................you will bear fruit!!!
No fruit on the tree. Don't attempt to tell me how to be saved. I think we all know
what the fruit is.
Have a good rest of the day..........
The FIRST regards to any TRUE witness is their Born Again {ACTS 2:37-38} testimony my friend. While I do fellowship and embrace all when it comes to showing myself friendly, and being a light/witness to all; you MUST have the greatest witness of being saved according to the Apostles Doctrine, and living that saved life that Jesus requires. Faithful are the wounds of a FRIEND; to disregard telling people of their need to be properly saved is a discredit to truths, and deception; especially when you know the true way of salvation: Jesus did not call us to be cowards just to be able to get along and/or fellowship with people-you gottuh have genuiine integrity to help anybody to see the light.
Yes, we should meet an embrace people but you/we must endeavour to bring them into the light through our saved lives, and TRUE witness of the Born Again experience according to St. John 3:17, ACTS Chapter 2, and all of the other experiences in the Book of Acts whereby people were saved the same way; Acts chapter 19:1-6 is a great example for those that have only come to become believers without the proper/genuine experience of water/spirit baptism in Jesus name: don't be confused yourselves, and don't be cowards-deceivers of such great truths that so many have died for contending upon this One Lord-One Faith-One Baptism!!!
According to the "Three Step" creed there should not be any fellowship across denominational lines. If you have not been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and spoken in tongues then you are not even a Christian and should be treated like "the world."
As understood the "titles" point that was being made (not by you - but by the fellow preaching it) - it just seemed to be a huge non sequitur to me. Maybe I missed something about it.
Amen!!! We should attempt to enlighten these people with the authentic Apostolic Truths!!! There is NO other way to be saved other than the NAME of Jesus: born of the water and of the holyspirit!!!
So...this means that Jesus name baptism didn't really mean anything to you?
Could it be you saw two different formulas (which aren't two different formulas at all), and figured that it was a hit or miss, and felt that God would sort it all out in the end?
And pretty pleased about it, I might add.
That was before you knew better...right?
How about no baptisms? How about if someone just says a sinner's prayer?
Oh, I see, you were raised in it, and therefore you couldn't see all the hub bub about what you were raised in? All the fuss about all those pages in that big black book?
Baptism in titles, baptism in Jesus name, sinner prayers, baby baptisms, and the real kicker, no one, but no one, like Mrs Foofoonick could possibly go to hell, because see was such a sweet and kind old lady.
She use to mow everyone's lawns, and bake cookies for serial killers in the state lockdown.
She wasn't Pennycost, she was, Episcopalian. Now could God, thrown someone that nice and cute in a burning hell? In a burning hell of torment, just because she didn't get baptized in Jesus name?
You would say no?
So that means what? Does that mean you have come up with a whish washy touchy feely I'm ok your ok Gospel? So, you didn't like it where Jesus said the way was narrow and the entrance was tight that led into eternal life, and few there would be who would enter in? So, we dab a little good old post modern political correctism to Jesus, so everyone can "feel" content, and happy that Jesus loves them just they way they are. No repentence, no change. We just stay the way we are? No condemnation in Christ Jesus, is ONLY for those who walk NOT after the flesh, but after the Spirit. His Spiirt, His will, not our own.
That makes no sense. You just made a stipulation which would constitute some sort plan of salvation. Are you saying there is a niceness soteriology in the Bible? You mean everyone who doesn't follow Jesus isn't kind and benevolent? There are some sweet people who are Muslims, Rastafarians, Buddhists, Hindus, and Atheists. Kind, sweet, charitable, selfless, and have been great enduring friends. Yet, do not accept a Jesus, a Jesus as only Lord and savior. People tend to lean towards other religions because the American form of Churchanity has become so watered down that it goes right through them. All you have to do to be a Chirstian is to be NICE, and always smile, and never have an off day. Oooo kay.
Not only no fruit, but no tree. It sounds more like canned perserves.
I guess here we have some fruit?
See quote above?
No doubt.
It would be ETERNALY foolish for anyone to expect Jesus to sort out anything as pertaining to the plan of salvation when He has left it plainly on record for us to receive right NOW!!! Jesus said, "search the scriptures for in them ye think ye have eternal life". So, the opportunity to be saved is now granted to whosoever will: DON'T LET IT BE SAID TOO LATE like the rich man that died and went to hell; there will be NO sorting out later: ONLY ETERNAL JUDGMENT!!! The bible instructs us to "work out your OWN salvation in fear and trembling"...
I know a lot of really good people who love God and are zealous towards him,I hear their testimony,their prayers answered,I see their joy..and guess what,they are trinitarian and as far as I know never spoke in tongues..can I say they are not saved?..No I cannot..
That's because you err in your understanding on the true and ONLY plan of salvation left on record: acts 2:37-38!!! Many speak in tongues but foolishly REFUSE to take on water baptism in the name of Jesus; they WREST the scriptures to their OWN damnation. A person is not saved without water baptism in Jesus name; its throughout the Book of Acts, and plainly stated that "whatsoever you do in WORD or DEED; do ALL in the name of Jesus"...So many of you supposed christians are so lost in your own ideas, and failure to embrace the entire plan of salvation that's been given to the New Testament Church: Jesus is calllign for informed, experienced, and qualified soldiers; not folk that need to sttay in boot camp til you get things right in your understanding and comprehension...
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