Preaching Evil Attitudes

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Here you have it, ladies and gentlemen--a nice judgmental remark from one of the love-filled grace teachersthat got liberated from the UPC and its hateful clutches.

My point proven. .. from both my latest posts

[Nahum]

The video is just another example of a feminist agenda in the pulpit.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

The video is just another example of a feminist agenda in the pulpit.

Obviously you must be a control freak, as per the Blume revelation.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Obviously you must be a control freak, as per the Blume revelation.

Oh well, and she isn't?

[mfblume]

Anyone hear of the term "Maybe"?

Originally Posted by mfblume

Maybe it is control freaks who do not like to see this sort of thing.

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Oh well, and she isn't?

Of course she isnt.. havent you read??? She is just trying to "guide them as to what to do!"

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by bishoph

While this is a little bit off the ongoing subject, I strongly disagree with the highlighted portion. One of the greatest indicators that true forgiveness has been realized is when the pain is no longer felt. When I can still feel pain from an offense the forgiving/healing has not been complete.

I have scars today from injuries I experienced throughout the years. While I can look at those scars and remember the incident that caused the scar I no longer feel the pain from the injury. If I could still feel the pain from those long ago injuries it would mean that infection and other issues were compounding/prolonging the wound and if not treated properly would result in my demise. If when you look back at situations in your life, you still feel the pain, you have not healed, nor have you truly forgiven. True forgiveness does not equate to no longer remembering it equates to no more pain.

I disagree with the statement above. See my post from the spiritual abuse thread, here:

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=149

and particularly here:

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=150

Having said that, Juanita's rant does nothing to heal her listeners, but rather seeks to tranquilize them with the anesthesia of bitterness and revenge. The end result of this is that when they wake up years down the road they will still be hurting, confused, and reliving the pain of their past in stead of being delivered. And that my friends is evil and worldly.

I do agree with the above, though.

[J-Roc]

Isnt the clinching of her jaws and speaking through her teeth enough evidence of someone that is speaking with so much hatred...she is suggesting that these women should harbor an attitude of hate and revenge...she promotes silent murder...she promotes an attitude of staring down (a clear invitation to more war and fighting)....she is teaching to be aggressive which is the opposite of what she perceives to be passive....both extremes are unnecessary....she is not promoting assertiveness - the true way to go.

This is nasty.... uuuugggggggghhhhhh

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

Isnt the clinching of her jaws and speaking through her teeth enough evidence of someone that is speaking with so much hatred...she is suggesting that these women should harbor an attitude of hate and revenge...she promotes silent murder...she promotes an attitude of staring down (a clear invitation to more war and fighting)....she is teaching to be aggressive which is the opposite of what she perceives to be passive....both extremes are unnecessary....she is not promoting assertiveness - the true way to go.

This is nasty.... uuuugggggggghhhhhh

She needs Miss Brattified to teach her a thing or two.

[SDG]

My thoughts:

Some are using this situation to take shots at JB, a spirit-filled Christian, her ministry and the TBN crowd ... however that aside .... these recent JB statements are reprehensible, carnal and unChrist-like.

Let's look at this situation from some of things going on in her life right now.

Everyone knows her marriage is on the rocks ... and has been estranged from her husband for some time. She has made the mistake that many ministers have made over the years by allowing their pulpits to become bully pulpits to work out and justify personal battles and problems in their own lives.

We all do this ... we're upset w/ someone or something and try to justify or project it on others .... I've seen Apostolic preachers to David Koresh use the bible to justify poor decision and attitudes

Yet, a minister has a duty to separate some of their personal strife when ministering to the Body ... and not take it "out on them".

Someone has said that this video is 11 days before her skirmish w/ her estranged husband ... She was obviously feeling turmoil over it ... and it ran over to expressing an ungodly aggressive attitude in her teaching .... this could be one factor to why she and her husband are having problems.

If my memory is correct ... the day he hit her ... they had met ... to finalize some things ... he left the hotel room ... and she followed him down to the parking lot ....

Mistake #1 ... if they had come to a conclusion ... why follow him ...???

Mistake #2 ... I have to assume that she must've been very provocative towards her husband for him to raise his hand ... this in no way ... justifies this cowardly and reprehensible action by him ... however, if she displayed aggression when preaching about this ... I have to think that in private she was out of control ... and aggressive. Nothing good could result in confronting him like this in public.

True holiness ... God dwelling in us ... should be reflected at all times ... JB needs to find an altar and ask God to examine her and repent for her lack of temperance ... She must do whatever it takes to work out her marriage ... cause we're all watching.