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Old 11-15-2012, 07:13 AM
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Why would he move to DC when he has a congregation of 100-150 ppl waiting for him to start a new church?
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Show me scripture where you can snoop into situations that does not concern you, judge people who have no relavance in your life, and make accusations based on hearsay. Where is the scripture permitting people directly involved in the situation to use the internet to gain public support for their position?

The Bible says gossip is an abomination. Gossipers are put in the same catagory as homosexuals. God looks at gossip the same way he looks at homosexuality.

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Old 11-15-2012, 09:48 AM
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You can use a little daily devotion HG. It's possible the KJV doesn't make it clear.

Proverbs 6:16-19 ESV

There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

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You can use a little daily devotion HG. It's possible the KJV doesn't make it clear.

Proverbs 6:16-19 ESV

There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.
At the risk of a 12 Volume response from you I will simply say: what has been discussed here is NOT hearsay, it's factual. It really happened, the man resigned, no one disputes the reasons why. The above scripture talks about lies and breathing out lies. No lying here. It's the truth Ruth.

Jesus said "by their fruit you shall know them". If I see an apple tree bearing apples, am I being judgmental if I call it an apple tree? If an apple tree claims to be a banana tree but I see apples, am I being judgmental if I call it an apple tree in spite of the claims of the apple tree to the contrary?

Jesus said a good tree cannot produce evil fruit nor can an evil tree produce good fruit. I am not the one who determines the fruit, but I can see the fruit and I can call it for what it is. That's not being judgmental or breathing out lies. That's just stating the truth.

As Jack Nicholson said famously once in a movie "You can't handle the truth!"
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:27 AM
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Show me scripture where you can snoop into situations that does not concern you, judge people who have no relavance in your life, and make accusations based on hearsay. Where is the scripture permitting people directly involved in the situation to use the internet to gain public support for their position?

The Bible says gossip is an abomination. Gossipers are put in the same catagory as homosexuals. God looks at gossip the same way he looks at homosexuality.

Something to think about.
Self righteousness is condemned in the holy writ. I haven't snooped into anything. This is out in open, on the Internet, videos on the website that were left for weeks where the pastor was calling people jackals and accusing those who were calling him on his bluff of trying to divide the Body of Christ. It's all been very public. And this figure was very open and public that he was the paragon of holiness and contending for those things that made him, his church and his denomination superior to all others. The people directly involved coming on here are unknown, unless you're talking about social media. And since you don't know me, you cant ascertain who is relevant to my life or not. So mind your own business
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At the risk of a 12 Volume response from you I will simply say: what has been discussed here is NOT hearsay, it's factual. It really happened, the man resigned, no one disputes the reasons why. The above scripture talks about lies and breathing out lies. No lying here. It's the truth Ruth.

Jesus said "by their fruit you shall know them". If I see an apple tree bearing apples, am I being judgmental if I call it an apple tree? If an apple tree claims to be a banana tree but I see apples, am I being judgmental if I call it an apple tree in spite of the claims of the apple tree to the contrary?

Jesus said a good tree cannot produce evil fruit nor can an evil tree produce good fruit. I am not the one who determines the fruit, but I can see the fruit and I can call it for what it is. That's not being judgmental or breathing out lies. That's just stating the truth.

As Jack Nicholson said famously once in a movie "You can't handle the truth!"


Judgmentalism is one apple tree saying that the other apple tree which produces bananas is going to hell.
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You haven't defined how I'm self righteous. People act like a hormone crazed boy watching a rated R movie with this stuff. It's not often the average joe can feed on the carcass of the ministry. I don't believe the Bible makes exceptions for people who entertain gossip. Even if you had skin in the game, public posturing isn't the christian way to resolve the issue.


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Self righteousness is condemned in the holy writ. I haven't snooped into anything. This is out in open, on the Internet, videos on the website that were left for weeks where the pastor was calling people jackals and accusing those who were calling him on his bluff of trying to divide the Body of Christ. It's all been very public. And this figure was very open and public that he was the paragon of holiness and contending for those things that made him, his church and his denomination superior to all others. The people directly involved coming on here are unknown, unless you're talking about social media. And since you don't know me, you cant ascertain who is relevant to my life or not. So mind your own business
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The Bible says gossip is an abomination. Gossipers are put in the same catagory as homosexuals. God looks at gossip the same way he looks at homosexuality.

Something to think about.
Where is that verse at?
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Proverbs says gossip is one of the abominations. Same word used to describe God's feelings towards homosexuality.

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Proverbs says gossip is one of the abominations. Same word used to describe God's feelings towards homosexuality.
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