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11-15-2012, 07:13 AM
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Why would he move to DC when he has a congregation of 100-150 ppl waiting for him to start a new church?
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11-15-2012, 09:08 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Show me scripture where you can snoop into situations that does not concern you, judge people who have no relavance in your life, and make accusations based on hearsay. Where is the scripture permitting people directly involved in the situation to use the internet to gain public support for their position?
The Bible says gossip is an abomination. Gossipers are put in the same catagory as homosexuals. God looks at gossip the same way he looks at homosexuality.
Something to think about.
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11-15-2012, 09:48 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
You can use a little daily devotion HG. It's possible the KJV doesn't make it clear.
Proverbs 6:16-19 ESV
There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.
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Spare me the self righteousness...
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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11-15-2012, 11:21 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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You can use a little daily devotion HG. It's possible the KJV doesn't make it clear.
Proverbs 6:16-19 ESV
There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.
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At the risk of a 12 Volume response from you I will simply say: what has been discussed here is NOT hearsay, it's factual. It really happened, the man resigned, no one disputes the reasons why. The above scripture talks about lies and breathing out lies. No lying here. It's the truth Ruth.
Jesus said "by their fruit you shall know them". If I see an apple tree bearing apples, am I being judgmental if I call it an apple tree? If an apple tree claims to be a banana tree but I see apples, am I being judgmental if I call it an apple tree in spite of the claims of the apple tree to the contrary?
Jesus said a good tree cannot produce evil fruit nor can an evil tree produce good fruit. I am not the one who determines the fruit, but I can see the fruit and I can call it for what it is. That's not being judgmental or breathing out lies. That's just stating the truth.
As Jack Nicholson said famously once in a movie "You can't handle the truth!"
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11-15-2012, 11:27 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Show me scripture where you can snoop into situations that does not concern you, judge people who have no relavance in your life, and make accusations based on hearsay. Where is the scripture permitting people directly involved in the situation to use the internet to gain public support for their position?
The Bible says gossip is an abomination. Gossipers are put in the same catagory as homosexuals. God looks at gossip the same way he looks at homosexuality.
Something to think about.
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Self righteousness is condemned in the holy writ. I haven't snooped into anything. This is out in open, on the Internet, videos on the website that were left for weeks where the pastor was calling people jackals and accusing those who were calling him on his bluff of trying to divide the Body of Christ. It's all been very public. And this figure was very open and public that he was the paragon of holiness and contending for those things that made him, his church and his denomination superior to all others. The people directly involved coming on here are unknown, unless you're talking about social media. And since you don't know me, you cant ascertain who is relevant to my life or not. So mind your own business
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11-15-2012, 12:02 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by H Gang
At the risk of a 12 Volume response from you I will simply say: what has been discussed here is NOT hearsay, it's factual. It really happened, the man resigned, no one disputes the reasons why. The above scripture talks about lies and breathing out lies. No lying here. It's the truth Ruth.
Jesus said "by their fruit you shall know them". If I see an apple tree bearing apples, am I being judgmental if I call it an apple tree? If an apple tree claims to be a banana tree but I see apples, am I being judgmental if I call it an apple tree in spite of the claims of the apple tree to the contrary?
Jesus said a good tree cannot produce evil fruit nor can an evil tree produce good fruit. I am not the one who determines the fruit, but I can see the fruit and I can call it for what it is. That's not being judgmental or breathing out lies. That's just stating the truth.
As Jack Nicholson said famously once in a movie "You can't handle the truth!" 
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11-15-2012, 01:45 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
You haven't defined how I'm self righteous. People act like a hormone crazed boy watching a rated R movie with this stuff. It's not often the average joe can feed on the carcass of the ministry. I don't believe the Bible makes exceptions for people who entertain gossip. Even if you had skin in the game, public posturing isn't the christian way to resolve the issue.
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Originally Posted by H Gang
Self righteousness is condemned in the holy writ. I haven't snooped into anything. This is out in open, on the Internet, videos on the website that were left for weeks where the pastor was calling people jackals and accusing those who were calling him on his bluff of trying to divide the Body of Christ. It's all been very public. And this figure was very open and public that he was the paragon of holiness and contending for those things that made him, his church and his denomination superior to all others. The people directly involved coming on here are unknown, unless you're talking about social media. And since you don't know me, you cant ascertain who is relevant to my life or not. So mind your own business 
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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11-15-2012, 02:51 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by tv1a
The Bible says gossip is an abomination. Gossipers are put in the same catagory as homosexuals. God looks at gossip the same way he looks at homosexuality.
Something to think about.
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Where is that verse at?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-15-2012, 03:36 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Proverbs says gossip is one of the abominations. Same word used to describe God's feelings towards homosexuality.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Where is that verse at?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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11-15-2012, 04:16 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Proverbs says gossip is one of the abominations. Same word used to describe God's feelings towards homosexuality.
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Which verse was that?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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