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Old 03-12-2009, 10:38 AM
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Re: Deltaguitar-Salvation Requires More Than Faith

Sure its not holyghost baptism cause I read is the word (baptised) do not see water anywhere in the scripture?
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:46 AM
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Sure its not holyghost baptism cause I read is the word (baptised) do not see water anywhere in the scripture?
I'm very positive it speaks on water baptism. Not to mention thousands of theologians, many being trinitarians also teach that those specified scriptures speak on water baptism. Even Mormons and JW's understand those scriptures to speak on individual baptism and its' significance!
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:48 AM
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So there no holyghost baptism?
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:50 AM
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So there no holyghost baptism?
Hello..........


UNDERSTAND.......


There's a Holy Ghost baptism, however, those specified scriptures speak about water baptism ONLY.
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:52 AM
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Ok so there is 2 baptisms you have to go through to be saved?
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:52 AM
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Re: Deltaguitar-Salvation Requires More Than Faith

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I don't try to understand predestination and free will or Calvinism and Arminianism.

I believe that God knows everything that ever has happened and everything that ever will happen --that nothing ever takes Him by surprise. I believe that God knew me before I was born. He knew when I would come to Him and surrender to Him. He knows what I'll have for lunch today (I don't know that yet), that He knows everything I will ever do throughout the rest of my life, and He knows when I will die. Yet, with all that knowledge and foreknowledge, He does not interfere with my will. I don't know if that fits into any theological system but that's how I see it.
Hi Sam,

On the day Paul was heading to Damascus to kill more Christians Yeshua the Messiah blinded him, and showed himself visibly to him.

That does not look like free will salvation to me. Looks like Yeshua CAUSED him to believe.
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:54 AM
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Ok so there is 2 baptisms you have to go through to be saved?
Before I advance, please confirm or deny on whether you believe those specified scriptures speak of individual water baptism.
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:58 AM
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I just want you to answer my question about 2 baptisms to be saved and after you do I will give you my answer as if I agree with it being about water baptism or holy ghost baptism.
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Old 03-12-2009, 12:03 PM
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I just want you to answer my question about 2 baptisms to be saved and after you do I will give you my answer as if I agree with it being about water baptism or holy ghost baptism.

I've answered various questions of yours. You will need to answer my question in order to receive an answer from me. Thanks.
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Old 03-12-2009, 12:17 PM
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I know the scripture is talking about water baptism now answer my question is there two baptisms in order to be saved...
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