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02-28-2011, 10:24 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Why are the statements considered contradictory? Is GP on the ministerial staff at POK?
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Really???????
It's the harsh condemnation by RM towards a preacher using a rock song for a sermon illustration that RM used to validate his holiness stand to his church
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One week later the same EXACT THING happens on HIS platform....with HIS musicians.....and HIS church up clapping and affirming the use of a ROCK SONG and a JAMES BROWN SPIRIT to illustrate a sermon.
You don't see a contradiction there???????????????????
GP doesn't have to be on the staff, it happened at POK and I'd like to see RM answer the questions I posed. I'm not attacking or condemning, I would simply like to dialog about what happened and what is his feelings towards it.
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Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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02-28-2011, 10:26 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
In fairness, PO (and I'm agreeing with you that this really isn't our business), by posting the sermons on the church website, it does seem that they are wholly supported by RM. I doubt any "in-house issue" was dealt with.
So, if RM casts aspersions on preachers for using cultural references and/or secular material, and then supportively posts videos of the same thing happening at his church, it is a contradiction.
Mind you, I don't really care about it. I don't have a bone to pick with GP or RM. Just posting for argument's sake. 
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Was the clip of GP in it's entirety?
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02-28-2011, 10:27 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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Right, he isn't on the staff at POK. That means it's an in-house issue and none of your business. It's not contradictory when he is a guest speaker. RM can handle it however he wants - behind the scenes. He doesn't need to come here and sit at your table to be evaluated.
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I would simply like to know how one would correct the wrong, if RM thinks there is a wrong. If not, then how does he not see a wrong here???...RM could give all of us pastors some insight....
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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02-28-2011, 10:28 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
There is actually the possibility that RM didn't realize there was a contradiction until it was pointed out.
Has anyone considered that?
I tolerate more craziness from people I like than those I don't, and oratory skills aside, I'd wager GP is a pretty likeable guy.
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02-28-2011, 10:29 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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Was the clip of GP in it's entirety?
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No, but you can watch the whole sermon at the POK website. I didn't.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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02-28-2011, 10:29 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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Originally Posted by triumphant1
Really???????
It's the harsh condemnation by RM towards a preacher using a rock song for a sermon illustration that RM used to validate his holiness stand to his church
Then....
One week later the same EXACT THING happens on HIS platform....with HIS musicians.....and HIS church up clapping and affirming the use of a ROCK SONG and a JAMES BROWN SPIRIT to illustrate a sermon.
You don't see a contradiction there???????????????????
GP doesn't have to be on the staff, it happened at POK and I'd like to see RM answer the questions I posed. I'm not attacking or condemning, I would simply like to dialog about what happened and what is his feelings towards it.
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Did you want RM to shut the service down? I am thinking that the clip doesn't include the whole message and I would want to listen to the whole thing, not just some editing like MSNBC.
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02-28-2011, 10:29 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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NOW, you are hilarious. So he doesn't like slow songs. That was not cutting down Murrell Ewing. LOL! He and his wife have different tastes - big deal. So do me and my husband. LOL!
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Either you didn't listen to what he said or you just need to disagree with me so badly that you don't care what he said.
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02-28-2011, 10:30 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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Did you want RM to shut the service down? I am thinking that the clip doesn't include the whole message and I would want to listen to the whole thing, not just some editing like MSNBC.
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Did you watch the clip?
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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02-28-2011, 10:30 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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No, but you can watch the whole sermon at the POK website. I didn't. 
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Right, I didn't think it was. I'm just saying that I would want to listen to the whole message to see how I would have handled the whole thing. This is less than 10 minutes.
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02-28-2011, 10:33 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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Right, I didn't think it was. I'm just saying that I would want to listen to the whole message to see how I would have handled the whole thing. This is less than 10 minutes.
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I'm sure the Rev. Jeremiah Wright got the same PO objectivity and scrutiny ...
Puhleeze.
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