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Old 07-14-2007, 08:40 PM
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The Future of the Oneness Pentecostal Movement

The new Forward (a magazine for UPCI preachers) came out this week.

In it, there is an article titled "Where Have All the Young Ministers Gone?". The entire Forward is about mentoring and ministerial transition from one generation to the next.

In this article, the writer mentions that of the 9100 licensed UPCI ministers, under 400 of them are below the age of thirty. Hence the question, "Where have all the young ministers gone?" It is my belief that the UPCI is in danger. Under 400 ministers under the age of thirty? Where have they all gone?
Lest I am accused of being an alarmist, consider the theme of last year's General Conference was "Passing the Mantle". Now we have an entire Forward dedicated to the problem.

Why are there so few young ministers and what can be done to remedy the problem?
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:41 PM
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I have my own thoughts about it, but I won't share them...
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:42 PM
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I have my own thoughts about it, but I won't share them...
Please share, and be brutally honest.
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:36 PM
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Please share, and be brutally honest.
I don't think you are going to get what you are hoping for here.

I think I could summarize Ron's basic thoughts on this in a few sentences for you...but that would be unkind.
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:42 PM
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I don't think you are going to get what you are hoping for here.

I think I could summarize Ron's basic thoughts on this in a few sentences for you...but that would be unkind.
My thoughts are unkind, Brett?

Care to elaborate since you seem to know what I'm thinking and what I would say?
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:05 PM
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My thoughts are unkind, Brett?

Care to elaborate since you seem to know what I'm thinking and what I would say?
I didn't read that at all......I believe he was saying to post what he thinks you would say would be unkind - not that what you would post would be unkind.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:07 PM
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My thoughts are unkind, Brett?

Care to elaborate since you seem to know what I'm thinking and what I would say?
Sorry, Ron--I meant that my remarks might seem flippant and unkind...as they would come across as highly sarcastic--since we obviously are not on the same page on a number of things.

I just don't think Shamgar is looking for the kind of ideas that you would present is all.

No offense intended. I'll be glad to delete my post if you should so desire.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:22 PM
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I have my own thoughts about it, but I won't share them...
Aw, c'mon, make yourself a target.
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:23 AM
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I have my own thoughts about it, but I won't share them...
Why not share it?

If you are not going to share it, why mention it?

Would it not be healthy to share it, though some may disagree? Concealment of what otherwise could be a positive contribution is never healthy.
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Old 07-15-2007, 05:09 PM
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Why not share it?
Because I don't feel like it.

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If you are not going to share it, why mention it?
What does it matter to you? Feel free to ignore my posts... just as you ignore my pm's.
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