Does that mean you are going to discount the plethora of racial comments made by Wright that have been documented over the past 20 years. One cannot deny his anti-semtic actions by embracing Louis Farakhan. One cannot deny Wright has made racially charged statements that would make Don Imus look like Billy Graham. Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Farakhan want us to believe the black man is still a victim. If we could quarantine about a dozen of the so-called black leaders, 95% of the race problems would be eliminated.
I'm tired of being told I need to be color blind while the blacks are being told the white man is to blame for their failures. Wright needs to teach blacks how to rise above mediocrity instead of blaming white people for their lack of success.
Someone needs to tell Wright it is not the white man's fault a a high percentage of black men father children out of wedlock. Someone needs to tell the naacp it's not the white man's fault a lot of black kids are in single parent homes.
Blacks need successful role models like JC Watts, Clarence Thomas. Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, TD Jakes, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder. These are a few of many blacks who rose above their situations and became the best. These people transcend race. These people have made Martin Luther King Jr's dream a reality.
One must remember that Reverend Wright was a civil-rights era pastor who spoke from experience about the struggle of equality for his race. Reverend Wright lived in the era of segregation and limited opportunity and saw first hand what many of us only read about in our history books.
Would it be too much of a stretch to see that Reverend Wright was from a generation that was directly affected by the blatant hatred of people of color and that was why he spoke so passionately about the treatment of blacks in his sermons?
Furthermore, where has he blamed the social ills of the black community squarely on whites? I would be interested to see where you got that idea when people who have known Reverend Wright has stated that he hasn't let the black community of the hook for the breakdown of the black family structure.
The following is an excerpt from an article in the The Salt Lake Tribune which explains what I have tried to above:
''The whole generation that Rev. Wright represents is expressing what they call a righteous anger, the anger from the failed promises of America,'' said Dwight Hopkins, a professor at the University of Chicago Divinity School. ''The prophetic anger is toward expanding the democracy, expanding it so all citizens can walk through the door of opportunity.''
Often lost in the attention paid to Wright's fiery sermons is the typical conclusion, Hopkins said - that despite all obstacles, you are a child of God and ''can make a way out of no way.'' That phrase, common in the language of the black church, was used by Obama in his 4,700-word speech Tuesday.
While Trinity United Church of Christ is more Afrocentric and slightly more political than most black churches, ''even conservative black churches talk about racism in a way that many whites would find wounding or offensive,'' said Gary Dorrien, a religion professor at Columbia University in New York.
''Most white Americans have a very limited capacity for dealing with black anger or acknowledging their own racial privileges,'' Dorrien said. ''Wherever white people are dominant, whiteness is transparent to them. In black church communities, dealing with that problem is an every-week issue.''
Wright does not focus his ire on white America alone, said Martin Marty, a retired professor of religious history who taught Wright at the University of Chicago.
''He is very hard on his own people,'' Marty said. ''He criticizes them for their lack of fidelity in marriage, for black-on-black crime. He is not saying one part of America is right and one is wrong.''
Obama and others also have highlighted Trinity's extensive social safety net. It offers college-placement help, drug and alcohol counseling, a credit union, and domestic-violence programs.
Wright retired last month, and his generation of pastors is being supplanted by a new wave of preachers with TV ministries and megachurches who preach a prosperity message, said Lawrence Mamiya, a professor of religion at Vassar College who studies the black church. That theme has little to do with overcoming racial or societal barriers, and a lot to do with faith being rewarded with material riches.
''We see that as the dominant trend now, with many young black seminarians in divinity school seeing that as their major model,'' Mamiya said. ''Some of the older clergy like Wright decry that, saying it's forgetting the whole social justice tradition.''
__________________
Isaiah 53:5: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."(KJV)
"God sends no one away empty except those who are full of themselves." Dwight L. Moody
He is quoting an Ambassador in this chickens to roost comment....
He makes a powerful point about America's indignant approach .... to terrorism ...
His point was violence begets violence .... context is important ...
I will not excuse may of his other quotes but it would be interesting to hear the context of his other quotes ...
Lastly we know that the Clintons have called the Manguns their pastor ....
I wonder what would happen if one got some Mangun quotes ... and made a montage ... if he could be painted as a fanatic ....
This idea that we are going to hold our politicians fully accountable for the words of their pastors will not fly.
It was nice to see that someone got it!!! Thanks for your comments this morning, DA.
__________________
Isaiah 53:5: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."(KJV)
"God sends no one away empty except those who are full of themselves." Dwight L. Moody
Your welcome...We've all seen when someone's comments were sliced and diced in order to paint someone in a negative light.
__________________
Isaiah 53:5: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."(KJV)
"God sends no one away empty except those who are full of themselves." Dwight L. Moody
In my mind, herein lies the problem: Preachers are not preaching the word of God. Churches are more of a social gathering for airing dirty laundry and griping about what is owed to them.
Men of God should preach the word. Jesus is the answer for their problems. If the love of Christ is dwelling in our hearts, racism goes away, hatred goes away, bitterness goes away, etc. Once the word of God is preached and faith is released, we then allow God access into our situations. The answer for the world's ills is Christ and Him crucified.
Men like Rev. Wright are not mouth pieces of the Holy Spirit, only puppets of a religious ego-centric system perpetrating hatred through isolationism.
This type of preaching is the voice of Satan's kingdom.
The language no doubt still remains inflammatory ... but how is it different with Kenneth Phillips preaching on the urban legend of Operation Shekinah ... or Irvin Baxter making recent American legislation acts in cohoots w/ the Anti-Christ ...
I am wary of preachers talking politics from the pulpit ... but I know I've heard many a preacher say that God will judge America for it's sins.
This is a GREAT--and honest--post!!!
__________________
The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere. -DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
Does that mean you are going to discount the plethora of racial comments made by Wright that have been documented over the past 20 years. One cannot deny his anti-semtic actions by embracing Louis Farakhan. One cannot deny Wright has made racially charged statements that would make Don Imus look like Billy Graham. Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Farakhan want us to believe the black man is still a victim. If we could quarantine about a dozen of the so-called black leaders, 95% of the race problems would be eliminated.
I'm tired of being told I need to be color blind while the blacks are being told the white man is to blame for their failures. Wright needs to teach blacks how to rise above mediocrity instead of blaming white people for their lack of success.
Someone needs to tell Wright it is not the white man's fault a a high percentage of black men father children out of wedlock. Someone needs to tell the naacp it's not the white man's fault a lot of black kids are in single parent homes.
Blacks need successful role models like JC Watts, Clarence Thomas. Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, TD Jakes, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder. These are a few of many blacks who rose above their situations and became the best. These people transcend race. These people have made Martin Luther King Jr's dream a reality.
Sorry, a man who sexually harassed another sister can NEVER be my role model...
And as far as Condi goes, while many of my neighbors were fighting for their lives in the N.O. Superdome during & immediately after Katrina, she was clueless as to their plight.
The only one in your list I would even fathom as being my role model is Bishop TD Jakes.
__________________
Going up in the Spirit Realm....
The language no doubt still remains inflammatory ... but how is it different with Kenneth Phillips preaching on the urban legend of Operation Shekinah ... or Irvin Baxter making recent American legislation acts in cohoots w/ the Anti-Christ ...
I am wary of preachers talking politics from the pulpit ... but I know I've heard many a preacher say that God will judge America for it's sins.
It is true.
He will judge the nations & to whom much is given-much will be required.
It would be better that America/Canada call them selves atheist than try to act the hypocrite.
True or false? Wright and Obama support Homosexual relationships? If true how could a Christian ever vote for him?
This is not an endorsement for or against anyone; but if strict biblical obedience must be sought, a Christian could never vote for any candidates today.
__________________
The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere. -DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
Linear Mode
