Going back to the UPC

[Jack Shephard]

I guess I could have prefaced my first post by saying the charasmatic church I went to is oneness I guess. They baptize in Jesus name and the pastor is from the UPC of old.

Scotty hit the nail on the head for me. I was not too comfortable being there before cause of some issues, but I am fine with being there because Amy and Delaney(daughter) are the most important things to me and their living well and right is #1 for me. The toughest part is not following the standards for me. I am not convicted or convienced they are essential. But I am sure it will all work out.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

I guess I could have prefaced my first post by saying the charasmatic church I went to is oneness I guess. They baptize in Jesus name and the pastor is from the UPC of old.

Scotty hit the nail on the head for me. I was not too comfortable being there before cause of some issues, but I am fine with being there because Amy and Delaney(daughter) are the most important things to me and their living well and right is #1 for me. The toughest part is not following the standards for me. I am not convicted or convienced they are essential. But I am sure it will all work out.

Why would it be tough for you as a man?

[Margies3]

I agree that it is very important for your family to worship together. Whether it is in the UPC church or your old church, doesn't matter. But you NEED to be together.

One thing I would caution you about tho is this: If you've made the decision to go back to the UPC, then whether you agree with the standards or whether you don't, you must guard yourself carefully to make sure that you NEVER EVER speak evil or be disagreeable about the pastor or the church in front of your daughter or in any way where she might get wind of it later.

That doesn't mean you have to roll over and play dead. Nor does it mean that you have to follow every standard as it is preached. But if you are not going to, then you need to be adult enough to go to your pastor and discuss it in a civil way. Don't undermine his authority behind his back.

That's JMHO

[Sept5SavedTeen]

A thought just popped into my head, and I figured maybe we could entertain it a bit. Should the husband/dad change the assembly he goes to to fit his wife and children or should it be the other way around. Does this in some way undermine the headship GOD has given the man as head of his household? I am not trying to criticize my brother, but the thought did come to mind, and I figure this could be worth a bit of study and consideration.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by scotty

I believe God will reward and bless him greatly for this decision to do all he can to raise his family in the light of salvation.

Well, I won't engage in a standards discussion on Tullock's thread, but the question was poised to him - if he was unhappy enough to leave, how long can he be happy if he comes back?

And, will that unhappiness rub off on his family?

And, sorry to disappoint, my friend, but there are other churches where he could "raise his family in the light of salvation" that don't necessarily adhere to all the traditions of the UPC churches.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

A thought just popped into my head, and I figured maybe we could entertain it a bit. Should the husband/dad change the assembly he goes to to fit his wife and children or should it be the other way around. Does this in some way undermine the headship GOD has given the man as head of his household? I am not trying to criticize my brother, but the thought did come to mind, and I figure this could be worth a bit of study and consideration.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Good point!! Now get ready to get slammed! Hehehehehehehe!

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Why would it be tough for you as a man?

Cause I wear shorts and go to the movies, etc.

[Margies3]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Well, I won't engage in a standards discussion on Tullock's thread, but the question was poised to him - if he was unhappy enough to leave, how long can he be happy if he comes back?

And, will that unhappiness rub off on his family?

And, sorry to disappoint, my friend, but there are other churches where he could "raise his family in the light of salvation" that don't necessarily adhere to all the traditions of the UPC churches.

I agree completely, Mike. Which is why I said to him - whatever you do, you cannot go there and be disagreeable. That serves no good for anyone. If it didn't work before, and if you are not sure that you can sit by quietly and hold your peace, then, Tullock, please think this through completely before you make this decision.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Well, I won't engage in a standards discussion on Tullock's thread, but the question was poised to him - if he was unhappy enough to leave, how long can he be happy if he comes back?

And, will that unhappiness rub off on his family?

And, sorry to disappoint, my friend, but there are other churches where he could "raise his family in the light of salvation" that don't necessarily adhere to all the traditions of the UPC churches.

Any thread of mine can be a Standard thread too. LOL

My distance from the UPC church has been tough on my family so far. I am willing to go back. It will not pain me exactly, but it will be different. Something happened to cause me to leave. Most of which I still believe, but part of it I had a confirmation to let go of and now that I did it makes it easier to go back.

You are right there are other churches to raise my family in, but non of them my wife would have gone to. Nothing bad on her, just not what she prefers.

[rgcraig]

As long as you are willing to allow your wife to hold the standards that you don't agree with on your daughter, then all will be okay.

The dysfunction will occur if you start to disagree with the way your wife wants your daughter to be raised.