What part of man goes to hell?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

What part of man goes to hell? spirit? soul?

ALL of him that is what the resurrection is all about.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

ALL of him that is what the resurrection is all about.

Is that the case for those in hell now?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Right, so my next question is does it have to have a body to be tormented? A soul has no sensation a body, right?

Jesus told about a rich man and a beggar named Lazarus. Both men died. Lazarus was carried by the angels to a place called Abraham's bosom which was also known as Paradise. The rich man's body was buried but part of him (soul, spirit?) went to a place called "hell" in the KJV and called "hades" or "sheol" in other versions. Although the rich man's body was buried somewhere, the part of him that was in hell/hades/sheol experienced thirst, memory, torment from flames, regret, and fear for his brothers who were still alive. reference Luke 16:19-31

I realize there are differences of opinion among Christians as to how much of this is a parable and how much is symbolic imagery. Check out http://home.att.net/~jrd/Where_Are_the_Dead.gif
for a chart that shows how the late Bro. S.G. Norris (founder of the Apostolic Bible Institute in St. Paul, MN) taught this. Bro.Frank Curts, who was my (UPC) pastor for several years taught "soul sleep." He believed that from death to the first or second resurrection, the soul and body were asleep and experienced no sensation. He taught that the story of Lazarus and the rich man was a parable about the position of Jews (rich man) and Gentiles (Lazarus).

[mfblume]

I believe that the SOUL is referred to as being destroyed in hell.

Matthew 10:28 KJV And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Spirit is the conscience, communion and revelatory capacity of a man -- the spiritual consciousness of a man. The soul is the self-consciousness of a man, and is will, emotions and intellect. The body provides the world-consciousness to us, and uses the five physical senses.

The spirit goes back to God

Ecclesiastes 12:7 KJV Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

The BODY was made from earth and our spirits are from heaven (heaven and earth are in spirit and body) and the soul is the union of the two with a self consciousness into a living being.

The SOUL is what suffers in hellfire. Who said hellfire was physical? Everything physical has a spiritual counterpart. And there is a spiritual fire that is not physical, but mirrored by physical fire.

I believe there is literal hell-fire, but not physical fire. We think everything that is physical is literal, and that is not true. There is a literal God, but He is not physical!

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

What part of man goes to hell? spirit? soul?

...his pride.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Sam

He taught that the story of Lazarus and the rich man was a parable about the position of Jews (rich man) and Gentiles (Lazarus).

Just for consideration, I think the story of the rich man and Lazarus speak about actual places but the point of the story is about Believers in Christ who did not have the esteem of men (Lazarus) and the Pharisees who coveted esteem of men (rich man). Watch the context:

Luke 16:14-17 KJV And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. (15) And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. (16) The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. (17) And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

The rich man was rich -- representing Pharisees who were rich with the esteem of men but had no esteem of God -- while Lazarus was poor -- lacked all esteem of men in favour of the esteem of God. It coincides with the thought of gaining all and losing your soul.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Appreciate you input!

So do you believe in literal fire of hell or is symbolic of the torment of conscious?

Both, I will go with what Jesus said, a place where there will be, "...outer darkness, weeping, whaling and gnashing of teeth."

I suppose that implies some physicialty however, it really doesn't matter how much bodily terror you can endure, the mental and emotional can be much much worse because it cannot be destroyed.

I suppose this begs the question, what happens when you have no more teeth to gnash, or is it like that movie Ground Hog day where you get a new set every so often in eternity.

Either way, an eternity without my Jesus is the absolute worst terror and torment I could possibly imagine...true hell.

[Pastor DTSalaz]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Both, I will go with what Jesus said, a place where there will be, "...outer darkness, weeping, whaling and gnashing of teeth."

I suppose that implies some physicialty however, it really doesn't matter how much bodily terror you can endure, the mental and emotional can be much much worse because it cannot be destroyed.

I suppose this begs the question, what happens when you have no more teeth to gnash, or is it like that movie Ground Hog day where you get a new set every so often in eternity.

Either way, an eternity without my Jesus is the absolute worst terror and torment I could possibly imagine...true hell.

Anybody ever read 23 minutes in Hell.

What did you think?

Literal physical Hell

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Pastor DTSalaz

Anybody ever read 23 minutes in Hell.

What did you think?

Literal physical Hell

Didn't read it. What is the Reader's Digest version?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

ALL of him that is what the resurrection is all about.

Right! The part that doesn't "change it's ways". lol