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Old 05-18-2009, 01:01 PM
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Re: Speaking in tongues

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Tongues in Acts was a sign to believers that one was Spirit filled:
Acts 10:45-46 KJV And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. (46) For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

1 Corinthians 14:22 KJV (22) Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
In 1 Cor 14 tongues preceded an interpretation. That is not the case in Acts.
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I am talking about any time someone prays out loud over everyone in tongues - to me that is very distracting and that is what my husband points out is not biblical and according to Paul it seems he is correct and also another thing when someone is praying for you and screaming at you speaking in tongues - to me that is very distracting and just doesn't seem biblical.
I definitely understand your concern on praying for someone in tongues for them receive the Holy Ghost -- and have wrestled with that personally.

With public speaking in tongues, I have a mixed opinion. Normally, if I feel to speak in tongues publicly (while speaking), I'll make an attempt to pull the microphone away. To be sure, this was not what Paul was addressing in the church of Corinth, though. It was much worse than that.
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I am talking about any time someone prays out loud over everyone in tongues - to me that is very distracting and that is what my husband points out is not biblical and according to Paul it seems he is correct and also another thing when someone is praying for you and screaming at you speaking in tongues - to me that is very distracting and just doesn't seem biblical.
That is exactly what Paul was talking about:
1 Corinthians 14:19 KJV (19) Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

1 Corinthians 14:23 KJV (23) If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:12 PM
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One point:

Tongues in Acts was a sign to believers that one was Spirit filled:
Acts 10:45-46 KJV And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. (46) For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

1 Corinthians 14:22 KJV (22) Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
In 1 Cor 14 tongues preceded an interpretation. That is not the case in Acts.
Paul says tongues are for the unbeliever when given publicly in the assembly. He called it "speaking in the air." This is also what Paul was talking about when he told people to "keep quiet in the church."

From the AOG website:
There are at least four uses or purposes of unknown tongues, according to the New Testament: (1) as the initial evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:4; 10:46; 19:6); (2) as a gift to edify the church when the tongues are interpreted (1 Corinthians 12:10); (3) as a sign for unbelievers that they might believe (1 Corinthians 14:22); and (4) as a God-given provision for effective prayer and praise (1 Corinthians 14:2, 14). In all these cases, tongues is the same in essence, but different in purpose.

We must remember the context for Corinthians -- there was a major problem with loud, spontaneous interruptions during public worship, without an interpretation. It is evident, the problem in Corinth was the "gift" of tongues given without interpretation. There was mass confusion.

When Paul spoke in tongues "more than us all," most don't believe he was talking about the Gift of Tongues, but tongues in his private prayer life. He was saying, "you're not so spiritual. In fact, I speak in tongues more than all of you... my point is, you are out of control!" So yes, it appears Paul makes a clear distinction when he's talking about tongues, but that's because of the issue he's dealing with in his epistle.
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Tongues in Acts was a sign to believers that one was Spirit filled:
Acts 10:45-46 KJV And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. (46) For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

1 Corinthians 14:22 KJV (22) Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
In 1 Cor 14 tongues preceded an interpretation. That is not the case in Acts.




People whom I have talked to who do not believe as apostolics agree that the tongues in bible were a sign to them that believed not, but in Acts 2 it states that they spoke with tongues and others hear them in their own language thus they understood what they were saying. In Acts 10:45-46 it also states that they heard them speak with tongues and glorify God - where in the Bible does it say they were speaking with tongues and no one knew what they were saying and that was the sign of the Holy Spirit
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I don't hink anywhere in the bible it mentions that tongues were being spoken and no body knew what was being said the only account we have is at pentecost and that clearly states they heard them in there own languge so to me that sets up the rest of the tongues in acts and corith they understood the tongues so why not still understand the tongues anyone like to look up the definition of tongues or glossolalia as it is known as
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Re: Speaking in tongues

Hi,

Yeah I'm new here. I have totally never read any scripture where interpretation and/or prophesy was NOT present. I have, however, been in many services, more so than not actually, where tongues are present with no interpretation or prophesy. In fact, all of the prophesies that I have heard were along the lines of "Come to me and be my son, and I will be your Father!" or "I have called you and yet ye (yeah they say "ye") have not come. Come to Me now!"


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Re: Speaking in tongues

Just another opinion

But when Paul says he spoke in tongues more than you all just what was he refering to? It is my feeling that it was in his personal prayer and praise time, it is my experiance that for my own person that this brings me closer to God when I speak in tongues in my personal prayer. But a long time ago I quit speaking in tongues just to be speaking in tongues. I have conversed with others that have had the same experiance they too have found that speaking out loud in church or even in the prayer room in tongues did not bring any edification to God. In everything we should edifiy God or it serves no purpose. For those who speak in tongues loudly in church do not edify God but there own selves. And this is what I feel Paul is addressing in Corintians. Remeber the gift is subject to to person. I might point out I was raised Apostilic/UPCI so I have a bit of understanding of the subject. I received the Holy Ghost when I was seven and spoke in tongues. As I got older I found that I would speak in tongues for my own edification when I got older and realized this is when I began to control speaking in tongues. I am of the opinion that I would rather say ten works in my own tongue than speak in tongues for an hour just to make some one think I am spritual.
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Are prayers in tongues more effective than prayers in English? Does God more often agree with them?
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I want to know where in the bible someone was praying in tongues..need some scripture please to physically show me that someone was praying in tongues......in the bible...
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