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Old 05-12-2007, 08:49 PM
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Yes, television is a problem.

Had there never been the invention, there would be no division and confusion over it. There would never been the contention among us because of it.

Television has placed us in a TRIAL. We are in a TEST in regards to carnality and spirituality. So, I don't think Television is the issue after all. But rather it seems to be an issue of carnality and spirituality. Television seems to be the object or focal point that has brought forth this spiritual test that we are FAILING. We are getting a big fat "F" on our spiritual report card.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:21 PM
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The pentecostal church's biggest problem is people who think they have arrived when they are no more than dead dry bones.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:27 PM
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The single biggest problem with the church today is......





















people.





BTW, they are also the single biggest thing that is right with the church today.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:27 PM
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Yes, television is a problem.

Had there never been the invention, there would be no division and confusion over it. There would never been the contention among us because of it.

Television has placed us in a TRIAL. We are in a TEST in regards to carnality and spirituality. So, I don't think Television is the issue after all. But rather it seems to be an issue of carnality and spirituality. Television seems to be the object or focal point that has brought forth this spiritual test that we are FAILING. We are getting a big fat "F" on our spiritual report card.
Are you preaching tomorrow, Bro Strange?

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Old 05-12-2007, 09:32 PM
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If there are no people, there is no church. If people are living off 50 year old experiences, than there is a dead church.

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The single biggest problem with the church today is......





















people.





BTW, they are also the single biggest thing that is right with the church today.
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Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:34 PM
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Hmmm.....I am living off of an experience that is at least 2000 years old. Doesn't feel dead to me.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:37 PM
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You didn't personally experience that 2000 years ago. I would guess in the past few weeks, you refamiliarized yourself with that experience. I don't think you've went 50 years without getting your tank refilled...

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Hmmm.....I am living off of an experience that is at least 2000 years old. Doesn't feel dead to me.
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Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:03 PM
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Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept. (Song of Solomon 1:6)

Almost everybody I talk to is worried about everybody else and what they are doing. Trying to change the organization, district, or, section in some way. Concerned about the standards the guy in the next town is teaching. Freting about what some "big name" preacher is doing. Upset over who is preaching some camp in another district. Wondering if the revival 2000 miles away is genuine. On and on it goes.

Wouldn't it be nice if everyone just took that same energy and kept their own vineyard and kept their big nose out of everybody elses? Honestly, if the Org. dissappeared tomorrow, I don't think I would even notice for a month (or until I didn't get my bill). Are we the only ones who are more concerned for our local vineyard than what is happening in another district? Are these all just preachers with too much time to kill and too little to do?

Thanks for letting me vent.

Oh, and about Tampa and the TV resolution:

I DON'T REALLY CARE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
1Co 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
1Co 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
1Co 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
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I feel that the biggest problem in Pentecost is people. If we could just fiqure out a way to get the people out of this and get God into it, we would see revival.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:12 PM
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I feel that the biggest problem in Pentecost is people. If we could just fiqure out a way to get the people out of this and get God into it, we would see revival.
If you got all the people out of it there'd be nothing to revive!
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