The Contention Between Oneness and Trinity Churches. - Page 2

#11 05-30-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Sure they do - Do you know of ANYBODY that has the Holy Ghost that believes in "THREE GOD"S?

Do you know ANY Oneness that "denies the Father"?

It's only a lie if the person telling it knows it isn't true. Otherwise, it is simply a mistaken belief.

ThePastorsCoach · #12 05-30-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The difference is real. I have been discussing/contending with Trins for many years. The problem is they have changed the definition of ONE. They deny that one is absolute concerning God.

Then they can say God is one and still say there are three co equal, co eternal, persons who are each one God in his own right. This is catastrophic to Biblical Oneness.

Three persons of God instead of one. Those who define it this way as most I have talked with do ARE denying the Oneness of God.

Why does not 3 PERSONS OF GOD=3 GODS?

I also realize most of them have never studied it very deep.

Why don't you leave them alone and go teach a Bible Study to a Muslim or a Hindu or a Buddhist?

I was born and raised and educated in the Church of God system and have NEVER heard or preached that there was MORE than ONE GOD!
That is an argument that Oneness men came up with to win over those that were not secure in their Trinitarian theology.
It has always been SO MUCH EASIER to win over someone with the Holy Ghost - OUT of a COG. A/G or IPH than to just go out and teach a sinner a Bible Study and convert them to JESUS.

Michael The Disciple · #13 05-30-2007, 12:09 PM

The writers of those posts greatly err. Doctrine is not a bunch of bickering squabbles. The doctrine of Christ defines him and what he wants us to believe.

Did Paul say dont worry about doctrine? Just say you believe in Christ?

10: Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. 1 Cor. 1:10

All are to believe the same truth. TRUTH MATTERS

ThePastorsCoach · #14 05-30-2007, 12:11 PM

Well Michael - You go ahead and work on people trying to win them to YOUR DOCTRINE and I will go ahead and win people to JESUS!

Michael The Disciple · #15 05-30-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Why don't you leave them alone and go teach a Bible Study to a Muslim or a Hindu or a Buddhist?

I was born and raised and educated in the Church of God system and have NEVER heard or preached that there was MORE than ONE GOD!
That is an argument that Oneness men came up with to win over those that were not secure in their Trinitarian theology.
It has always been SO MUCH EASIER to win over someone with the Holy Ghost - OUT of a COG. A/G or IPH than to just go out and teach a sinner a Bible Study and convert them to JESUS.

I teach Bible studies to any who will listen.

I ask you:

Are there 3 persons of God?

ThePastorsCoach · #16 05-30-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I teach Bible studies to any who will listen.

I ask you:

Are there 3 persons of God?

That is so condescending and childish and proves my point exactly!

Go win a Hindu - I am finished responding to you. You are hereby on IGNORE!

Michael The Disciple · #17 05-30-2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

That is so condescending and childish and proves my point exactly!

Go win a Hindu - I am finished responding to you. You are hereby on IGNORE!

Atlanta Bishop thus responded to my question.

Are there 3 persons of God.

Friends MOST of the Trins I have talked to over the years would say yes there are 3 co equal co eternal persons of God. And THAT is my point in the matter.

Most Trins are not ashamed to say they believe this. But AB must think he they are not able to define their own doctrine.