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10-02-2007, 02:11 PM
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ultra con (at least here)
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
oh, for goodness' sake with the INITIALS...is it a SECRET that they're pulling out? Otherwise post their names! *frustrated*
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Ditto!
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10-02-2007, 02:12 PM
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Why do we not list names? Is it against the rules or something?
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10-02-2007, 02:12 PM
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I'll give you the names if I won't get in troble for listing them
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10-02-2007, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Enigmatically Ambiguous
A district superintendent that I know just learned today that KG announced Sunday to his church in NC that he is pulling out of the UPC.
How many churches/preachers will pull out?
The word on the street is that the men who have left recently like PW and GH will join with them in an alliance complete with bylaws and elected officials. JH of NLR is said to be joining with them. They have been planning this for some time prior to GC no doubt.
Will it be 100 churches? Will it be 200? Will it be more?
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You are getting some details confused. JH (Joel Holmes) is NOT looking to join an organization. He is part of a ministers' retreat being held in Branson, MO.
Furthermore, GH (Gary Howard) is NOT joining ANY organization. I doubt PW (Phil White) is, either.
Rumors ... what will they say next?
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10-02-2007, 02:16 PM
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M-i-c-k-e-y
M-o-u-s-e
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10-02-2007, 02:17 PM
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Even if all these guys leave, the UPC culture is so strong that I doubt there will be any real changes in the movement as a whole. In the churches I know the doctrine is the God. Until this changes the UPC will not change no matter if liberals or conservatives control the organization.
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10-02-2007, 02:18 PM
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Kansas Preacher how many more rumors do you think your going to have to prove incorrect today?lol
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10-02-2007, 02:18 PM
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I wouldn't post private information on a public forum, even with initials...but isn't it pretty much public knowledge who's in the organization and who isn't? I mean, eventually it'll be reflected in the directory, if nowhere else!
As far as initials go...I guess you'd have to ask admin to find out for sure....
This is like trying to read CBS News without names or places or times. *rolls eyes*
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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10-02-2007, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by deltaguitar
Even if all these guys leave, the UPC culture is so strong that I doubt there will be any real changes in the movement as a whole. In the churches I know the doctrine is the God. Until this changes the UPC will not change no matter if liberals or conservatives control the organization.
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Question is, have these guys been activly involved and fellowshipping with the brotheren of their district & organization to begin with?
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10-02-2007, 02:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
You are getting some details confused. JH (Joel Holmes) is NOT looking to join an organization. He is part of a ministers' retreat being held in Branson, MO.
Furthermore, GH (Gary Howard) is NOT joining ANY organization. I doubt PW (Phil White) is, either.
Rumors ... what will they say next?
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I completely agree with you on Bro. Holmes...not so sure about Bro. Howard, though. I don't know who Phil White is.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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