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09-17-2008, 08:51 AM
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Re: Is This Blasphemy - Washington Post?
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Ok, now THIS letter is over the top!!!!!!!!!
Insulting the artwork, using words such as perspacity, the dripping sarcasm, and the use of Pentecostal lingo, which is indigenous to Pentecostals only.
I do not think this letter is going to be effective at anything other than making the editors laugh, unfortunately.
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I can't believe you are more concerned about insulting evil artwork than you are insulting God. God help your soul. For you who did not write but find fault with those who did, you have a serious problem. For we who did write, we did not do it to enter the political arena but to defend something that is dear to our hearts.
If you complain about the evils of our government you need to understand that it is evil because for too long the righteous have been afraid to get involved. Edmund Burke wrote: When good men do nothing evil prevails.
Thank God for men like Jerry Jones and Nate Wilson who are not afraid to get involved.
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09-17-2008, 09:29 AM
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Re: Is This Blasphemy - Washington Post?
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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY
I can't believe you are more concerned about insulting evil artwork than you are insulting God. God help your soul. For you who did not write but find fault with those who did, you have a serious problem. For we who did write, we did not do it to enter the political arena but to defend something that is dear to our hearts.
If you complain about the evils of our government you need to understand that it is evil because for too long the righteous have been afraid to get involved. Edmund Burke wrote: When good men do nothing evil prevails.
Thank God for men like Jerry Jones and Nate Wilson who are not afraid to get involved.
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Easy there, big fella.
Go back and read my posts on this thread.
First, I DID write the Washington Post personally and express my displeasure with this cartoon.
Second, I DID support Jerry Jones' letter, I thought it was very well written, and I defended him and his letter on this very thread.
Third, I do not have a problem with NW writing the Post, I just think his letter strayed from the pertinent facts, and he became insulting concerning issues that were not germaine to the point.
It was almost like I might disagree with you over one of your posts, and I threw in, "Oh yeah, and you're ugly too". See my point? It would turn you off before you ever listened to my logical argument.
Now before you accuse me of not loving God, and not standing up for what's right, please get your facts straight.
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09-17-2008, 09:41 AM
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Re: Is This Blasphemy - Washington Post?
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Easy there, big fella.
Go back and read my posts on this thread.
First, I DID write the Washington Post personally and express my displeasure with this cartoon.
Second, I DID support Jerry Jones' letter, I thought it was very well written, and I defended him and his letter on this very thread.
Third, I do not have a problem with NW writing the Post, I just think his letter strayed from the pertinent facts, and he became insulting concerning issues that were not germaine to the point.
It was almost like I might disagree with you over one of your posts, and I threw in, "Oh yeah, and you're ugly too". See my point? It would turn you off before you ever listened to my logical argument.
Now before you accuse me of not loving God, and not standing up for what's right, please get your facts straight.
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Sorry Michael, I stand corrected. So I'm ugly and my mother dresses me funny!!
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09-17-2008, 10:04 AM
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Re: Is This Blasphemy - Washington Post?
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Ok, now THIS letter is over the top!!!!!!!!!
Insulting the artwork, using words such as perspacity, the dripping sarcasm, and the use of Pentecostal lingo, which is indigenous to Pentecostals only.
I do not think this letter is going to be effective at anything other than making the editors laugh, unfortunately.
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Are you being sarcastic, my friend?
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09-17-2008, 10:07 AM
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Re: Is This Blasphemy - Washington Post?
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Originally Posted by George
Here is another response I received in an e-mail...
Letter to the Editor
The Washington Post
1150 15th Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20071
Dear Editor:
I am writing in regards to your recent cartoon lampooning Pentecostals.
First, I am somewhat shocked at the paucity of judgment in running such a demeaning piece (not to mention the awful artwork). The crassness and lack of discretion shown in your cartoon reveals a surprising narrowness and ignorance of world realities by both the cartoonist and those who approved it. When I compare such with the intellectual perspicacity, the enduring utilitarian beauty, and the unparalleled literary skill of the writers of the New Testament (all of which were Pentecostal, Acts 1:8, 2:1-4) your newspaper comes out a sad and very distant second. (An example of such beauty is I Corinthians 13. Yes, it is written by a Pentecostal preacher and author).
Further, it is evident that someone at the Post may not know that 16% of the world’s population is Pentecostal (not just “Christian” but “Pentecostal Christians”). This is approximately 500 million people worldwide. Further, this number is expected to continue its exponential growth for decades to come. So impacting is this phenomenon that, several years ago, Time magazine estimated it may be one of the most impacting events in the last one thousand years.
The liberating power of Pentecostalism also has a direct impact on the political climate of the world. For example, China is being revolutionized from within by conversions to Christianity, much of which is Pentecostal. This emphasis on the value of the individual versus the state is literally readjusting the philosophical underpinnings of the world’s largest nation.
In the intellectual and spiritual Hall of Greats, Jesus I know. Paul I know, but I gently ask, who are you?
Respectfully,
Nathaniel J. Wilson, Ed.D
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09-17-2008, 10:16 AM
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Re: Is This Blasphemy - Washington Post?
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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY
Sorry Michael, I stand corrected. So I'm ugly and my mother dresses me funny!! 
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No problem! I have no idea if you're ugly or not, since I have never seen you!
Was just illustrating my point..........
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09-17-2008, 10:17 AM
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Re: Is This Blasphemy - Washington Post?
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Are you being sarcastic, my friend?
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Nope, not at all, this letter went places JJ's didn't go, at least in my perception.
What capped it for me was the reference to the awful artwork, totally off point!
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09-17-2008, 10:19 AM
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Re: Is This Blasphemy - Washington Post?
These letters went into somebody's spam box.
I'm sure the WP is excited at all the attention this is bringing their worthless rag.
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09-17-2008, 11:11 AM
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Re: Is This Blasphemy - Washington Post?
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These letters went into somebody's spam box.
I'm sure the WP is excited at all the attention this is bringing their worthless rag.
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Might not have been read, but they have been responded to or at least all the people I know that emailed have received a cookie cutter reply.
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09-17-2008, 11:13 AM
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Re: Is This Blasphemy - Washington Post?
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I agree. This one is more useless than the first one. It seems that he wants to justify the alphabet thingy after his name. Why do preachers equate verbosity with eloquence, and pontification with dialogue? Sigh.
Is it any wonder our 'great' movement is on the fringe?
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