I agree with all of you that it is far fetched to think that this chip 20 centuries later has something to do with Revelations. However, I would never allow them to put anything in my right hand of forehead (just to be on the safe side).
Mark, many have been deceived concerning the end times as spoken by Jesus. We must realize that the revelation of Jesus Christ was a vision, and the things spoken there are symbolic and spiritual. The Mark is not a physical mark/chip, but is symbolic of one surrendering their mind (forehead) and authority (right hand) to the enemy.
The chip will come and go. It was just what people said about Social Security numbers, and the new credit cards with the microchip in them.
My problem with the chip is one of personal security, privacy, and liberty. But, as touching it's relevance to Bible prophecy, it has none.
I agree.
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It sounds INTRUSIVE. These chips have the ability to be tracking devices. IF they have an RF signal anyone with a reader can get your info. It's a foreign object embedded under your skin....Im sure piercers will like that
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
The heresy hunters are still with us. Only now, instead of stakes, they use their books and radio programs to destroy those they consider heretics.... I'm concerned that heresy hunting may be turning into leukemia because some cultwatchers seem more intent on destroying parts of the body than healing the body....
st mark, you are right on. it is amazing how many "apostolics" are mocking this.
are you all unaware that people are not going to know they are taking the mark of the beast, it is based on deception and flatteries. Now, the technology is not evil, but technology will certainly be used when the mark of the beast is implemented-since the ability to allow or disallow someone from buying or selling.
Two things should be a red flag for ALL christians:
#1)anything that is not optional, but is required concerning buying and selling.
I like using my debit card, I hate carrying case. But it is optional, and I chose to do it. It becomes diferent when it is forced. However, even if forced, such as the eventual National ID, it is not the mark of the beast, as long as the chip is in a card or something external and you can get rid of it if you desire, it is not the mark of the beast (though it is likely a precursor). However, it is quite a different story when it is IN you.
#2)when the government wants to put something IN me.
This is the line for me, I dont care if they want to put it in my foot, I'm not doing it. It is double-red flag (if that is even a phrase) when that same action will give me the ability to be able to buy and sell.
You who wold take a chip do you think the mark of the beast is going to be a huge 666 ?
also what about the fact that people/preachers have been warning that one day we would have to be chipped? No that day is not here, right now it is optional. But what about 10 or 20 years from now? What about 50 years?
Also, why are you guys so hostile against endtime prophecy? I live life and I enjoy it, I have hobbies I like, I get into sports and cars, etc. ive your life, but ignorning prophecy and mocking it isn't going to make it go away. ou're not just mocking people, you are unintentionally mocking the word of God, unless you are a preterist and think that all prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago. Now talk about a hoax.
OK, let's talk about the hoax, one that is called futurism.
Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. {Matthew 23:36}
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. {Matthew 24:34}
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. {Revelation 1:7}
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. {Revelation 1:1-2}
And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. {Revelation 22:10}
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. {Revelation 22:12}
Now, who shall we believe, futurist lies or the Truth (Jesus Christ) and the followers of that truth? As for me and my house, we shll not serve fear or ignorance, but we shall serve the Lord.
OK, let's talk about the hoax, one that is called futurism.
Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. {Matthew 23:36}
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. {Matthew 24:34}
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. {Revelation 1:7}
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. {Revelation 1:1-2}
And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. {Revelation 22:10}
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. {Revelation 22:12}
Now, who shall we believe, futurist lies or the Truth (Jesus Christ) and the followers of that truth? As for me and my house, we shll not serve fear or ignorance, but we shall serve the Lord.
Wow, can you be anymore intolerant? BTW you verses did not prove a lot other than some events have happened or were to happen soon. What "soon" means is undefined
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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