Where Are the Dead?

[ronharvey]

Respect to you Brother Epley.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I do NOT believe in the doctrine of annihilation of the wicked they will eternally die in the lake of fire where their torment will never cease.

They cannot 'eternally' die and be tormented at the same time, that would be eternal life if they never cease to be.

The lake of fire in Revelation is called the second death.

If you believe; "the wicked are dead unconscious until the resurrection."
Why then when their bodies are destroyed in Gehenna's fire would the 'soul' go on being tormented when the fires of Gehenna will burn out?

It is the smoke of the torment, not the torment itself that ascends up.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I do not believe the dead are conscious after death.

The scriptures concur

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

The souls of the righteous go into the presence of God to rest and the wicked are dead unconscious until the resurrection.

Where does the bible say this?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ronharvey

Respect to you Brother Epley.



They cannot 'eternally' die and be tormented at the same time, that would be eternal life if they never cease to be.

The lake of fire in Revelation is called the second death.

If you believe; "the wicked are dead unconscious until the resurrection."
Why then when their bodies are destroyed in Gehenna's fire would the 'soul' go on being tormented when the fires of Gehenna will burn out?

It is the smoke of the torment, not the torment itself that ascends up.



The scriptures concur



Where does the bible say this?

The Bible calls the Lake of Fire the second death and the wages of sin is death so it is eternal dying(my words) and yes the Bible teaches they are tormented eternally.Rev. 14:10
The body is NOT destroyed or annihilated in the the Lake of Fire it along with the soul is punished without end. Worm dieth NOT and the fire is NOT quenched. Everlasting punishment.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ronharvey

Respect to you Brother Epley.



They cannot 'eternally' die and be tormented at the same time, that would be eternal life if they never cease to be.

The lake of fire in Revelation is called the second death.

If you believe; "the wicked are dead unconscious until the resurrection."
Why then when their bodies are destroyed in Gehenna's fire would the 'soul' go on being tormented when the fires of Gehenna will burn out?

It is the smoke of the torment, not the torment itself that ascends up.



The scriptures concur



Where does the bible say this?

Them that sleep in Jesus will Goid bring with Him.